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Didn't mean to rub you the wrong way, the conversation is interesting. > it still constitutes a violation of "muh freedom/convenience", no? Yes, but "muh free
by ForkMeOnTinder 3y ago
Didn't mean to rub you the wrong way, the conversation is interesting.
> it still constitutes a violation of "muh freedom/convenience", no?
Yes, but "muh freedom" doesn't apply when you're on public roads with other people. My problem isn't with the law, but with co-opting a device that I paid for to work against my own interests.
Would you be okay with a similar system for seatbelt laws, where if you or your passenger or your child takes off the seatbelt while in motion, your car pulls over to the side of the road and holds you hostage for hours while you wait for someone to come write you a ticket?
> If they could get the inconvenience/false positive rate to 0%...
Simply isn't possible. And even if it was, there are edge cases where it should be allowed, such as:
- wife needs medical attention, and you've had a glass of wine
- wildfires, which can spread surprisingly quickly
- I want to drive on my own property where DUI laws don't apply
Don't kill my wife or make me burn alive in a wildfire because of other random people's mistakes.
> Who said anything about police?
You suggested someone comes and writes you a ticket before freeing you from your car. Who else writes tickets other than cops?
- Obscurity4340 3y ago> who else writes tix than cops? Haven't you ever passed one of those speed-testing automated tracker thing that issues people speed tix in the mail automatically?
- Obscurity4340 3y agoI commented down below on an exigent circumstance model further below. Just click on my handle and it will link you to all I've offered on various facets of the larger topic. We can always iterate but its important to make an effort to start deviating from the status quo towards a more optimal state of things. One of them was a bit "not great" but its sibling comment should be prescient for your purposes. Thanks