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Sounds like a fucking idiot. Which doesn't mean she deserves to be harassed. But WTF @ that comment! Who would want to give someone who talks like that any of t

Sounds like a fucking idiot. Which doesn't mean she deserves to be harassed. But WTF @ that comment! Who would want to give someone who talks like that any of their money?

hellerbarde 15y ago
Except for the fact that she should absolutely _not_ have engaged and/or acknowledged the stalker, I don't see a problem at all with the formulations/rhetoric in this response. She kept the vocabulary clean[1], and the content should not bother any grown-up at all. I don't know the demographic of her project, but if this connects with them, the wording of this seems perfectly okay to me. [1]: I guess that depends on opinion. YMMV
- LeafStorm 15y ago
  > She kept the vocabulary clean It may have been "clean" in the sense that little profanity was used, but it was also full of sexual slang and drug references, and clearly intended to shame Frank (not saying he didn't deserve it, but on the other hand I think a bit more tact is in order). So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable content. If you do we will remove it and suspend you." guideline. If she did think informing her backers was a good idea, she could have said something along the lines of: "Hello, backers, you may have noticed that some guy named FrankSinatraWhatever has been posting spam on my threads. Unfortunately, Frank has been cyberstalking me for a while due to a failed relationship from college. If you see Frank posting anything on my project, please just ignore him. Sorry about this, and thank you all for funding my project!" Still gets the point across without being vulgar, tactless, or ego-stroking.
  - pyre 15y ago
    > So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation > of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable > content. If you do we will remove it and suspend you." > guideline. I hate speculation like this. If Kickstarter considered it in violation of that part of their TOS, then why not explicitly state so rather than saying that she was 'encouraging spam' and that spam is in violation of the TOS? Chances are that they did not consider it a violation of those terms.
    - saraid216 15y ago
      According to the OP post, the violation was of Community Guidelines. Those can be found here: http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines It was not speculation.
      - agent409 15y ago
        What's your reasoning? Nowhere in the KS guidelines does it say you're not allowed to receive spam, only that you're not allowed to generate spam for your project. Please advise?
        rbanffy 15y ago
        You should never engage a troll/netstalker. Ignoring them is the best approach, always. They feed on your engagement and get frustrated and go away looking for other targets if you ignore them. If they become real-world stalkers, get a restraining order.
agent409 15y ago
Not sure if it helps your perspective or not, but the quoted material was written by our stalker rather than Rachel. He has many accounts on social networking sites and manufactures credibility by replying to his own posts with links to posts on other sites (usually ones he's written). He's been doing this for a long time. Even I have a hard time sorting out the sock puppets from the non-sock puppets sometimes. He's a brilliant, evil, genius. I would be jelly if I hadn't seen how he actually lives and had a glimpse at his mental illness. For instance, he has this really bizarre fascination with women named Vanessa and Rachel. He's been "married" twice, once to a Vanessa and once to a Rachel. He has this compulsion to have three women at once (named Vanessa or Rachel) that he describes in metaphysical terms. He does tons of designer hallucinogens he buys from labs in Japan. He often talks about himself in psycho-spiritual terms of superiority, such as "I've gone farther out than any mage. I flew right past [Carlos] Castaneda into expanses of the abyss he'll never know". More often than not I find myself feeling sorry for him. Until, of course, he goes on the offensive again.
- grannygoodness 15y ago
  These crazed lies and made up quotations come to you from one Travis Wichert, employee of liquidweb.com who allow him to use company resources and servers to spread libel and defamation and to harass, stalk, etc on company time. Liquidweb.com Official Endorser of Domestic Harassment since hiring Travis Wichert, a pathetic tool who graduated from DeVrye Technical "School"
- grannygoodness 15y ago
  This is Google's cache of http://www.linkedin.com/in/twichert http://www.linkedin.com/in/twichert. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Mar 17, 2012 14:57:22 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime. Learn more Text-only version These search terms are highlighted: travis wichert linkedin LinkedIn Join Today Sign In Travis Wichert Travis Wichert Systems Engineer at Liquid Web Eaton Rapids, Michigan (Lansing, Michigan Area) Information Technology and Services Join LinkedIn and access Travis Wichert’s full profile. As a LinkedIn member, you'll join 150 million other professionals who are sharing connections, ideas, and opportunities. And it's free! 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Most of my professional experience is in systems engineering, systems administration, project management, and networking. My favorite projects creatively push the limits of existing technologies in a way that somewhat resembles invention, but built from proven building blocks. My current favorite example is my recent work creating a Windows and Linux "emulsion" from which Windows cloud servers are born. Specialties I am OS agnostic and am most fluent in BSD, Linux, and MS Windows. I have deployed many WLANs and dealt with local and wide-area networks at all OSI layers. I find enjoyment in project management and risk assessments. I aim to be as plug-and-play as possible, Travis Wichert's Experience Systems Engineer / Senior Systems Administrator Liquid Web Privately Held; 201-500 employees; Internet industry June 2009 – Present (2 years 10 months) Lansing, Michigan Area I architect and admin internally-facing systems, provide buck-stops-here support for customers with demanding needs, and develop cutting-edge next-gen hosting products. IT Consultant Network Administrative Services April 2006 – September 2009 (3 years 6 months) Greater Seattle Area I worked with NAS as a sub-contractor through my firm, Compass & Scale. IT Cowboy Compass & Scale April 2006 – September 2009 (3 years 6 months) Greater Seattle Area As a small business owner, I provided IT service and support to small- and medium-sized businesses, and the occasional individual, directly and through relationships with reputable consulting companies. IT Consultant, Systems Administrator Denali Advanced Integration Privately Held; 201-500 employees; Information Technology and Services industry January 2002 – January 2004 (2 years 1 month) Redmond, WA I worked many different projects. Some of the more memorable were: HIS/EMR/ERP deployments, software support/test, network engineering, fault surveillance automation and reporting, traffic optimization, spam filtering, and custom routers and VPN firewalls. NOC Engineer Earthlink/Mindspring Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; xide; Telecommunications industry September 1999 – April 2001 (1 year 8 months) Provide tier 1 and 2 support for all flavors of service-affecting issues. Escalated to SA and NetEng whenever the issue was outside of my support scope. Designed a more automated fault surveillance system for dial-up POPs. Senior Technician Geeks to Go Computers, LLC 1998 – 1999 (1 year) In-house and on-site computer and network repairs. 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Sounds like a fucking idiot. Which doesn't mean she deserves to be harassed. But WTF @ that comment! Who would want to give someone who talks like that any of their money?

hellerbarde 15y ago

Except for the fact that she should absolutely _not_ have engaged and/or acknowledged the stalker, I don't see a problem at all with the formulations/rhetoric in this response. She kept the vocabulary clean[1], and the content should not bother any grown-up at all. I don't know the demographic of her project, but if this connects with them, the wording of this seems perfectly okay to me. [1]: I guess that depends on opinion. YMMV

LeafStorm 15y ago
> She kept the vocabulary clean It may have been "clean" in the sense that little profanity was used, but it was also full of sexual slang and drug references, and clearly intended to shame Frank (not saying he didn't deserve it, but on the other hand I think a bit more tact is in order). So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable content. If you do we will remove it and suspend you." guideline. If she did think informing her backers was a good idea, she could have said something along the lines of: "Hello, backers, you may have noticed that some guy named FrankSinatraWhatever has been posting spam on my threads. Unfortunately, Frank has been cyberstalking me for a while due to a failed relationship from college. If you see Frank posting anything on my project, please just ignore him. Sorry about this, and thank you all for funding my project!" Still gets the point across without being vulgar, tactless, or ego-stroking.
- pyre 15y ago
  > So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation > of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable > content. If you do we will remove it and suspend you." > guideline. I hate speculation like this. If Kickstarter considered it in violation of that part of their TOS, then why not explicitly state so rather than saying that she was 'encouraging spam' and that spam is in violation of the TOS? Chances are that they did not consider it a violation of those terms.
  - saraid216 15y ago
    According to the OP post, the violation was of Community Guidelines. Those can be found here: http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines It was not speculation.
    - agent409 15y ago
      What's your reasoning? Nowhere in the KS guidelines does it say you're not allowed to receive spam, only that you're not allowed to generate spam for your project. Please advise?
      - rbanffy 15y ago
        You should never engage a troll/netstalker. Ignoring them is the best approach, always. They feed on your engagement and get frustrated and go away looking for other targets if you ignore them. If they become real-world stalkers, get a restraining order.

agent409 15y ago

Not sure if it helps your perspective or not, but the quoted material was written by our stalker rather than Rachel. He has many accounts on social networking sites and manufactures credibility by replying to his own posts with links to posts on other sites (usually ones he's written). He's been doing this for a long time. Even I have a hard time sorting out the sock puppets from the non-sock puppets sometimes. He's a brilliant, evil, genius. I would be jelly if I hadn't seen how he actually lives and had a glimpse at his mental illness. For instance, he has this really bizarre fascination with women named Vanessa and Rachel. He's been "married" twice, once to a Vanessa and once to a Rachel. He has this compulsion to have three women at once (named Vanessa or Rachel) that he describes in metaphysical terms. He does tons of designer hallucinogens he buys from labs in Japan. He often talks about himself in psycho-spiritual terms of superiority, such as "I've gone farther out than any mage. I flew right past [Carlos] Castaneda into expanses of the abyss he'll never know". More often than not I find myself feeling sorry for him. Until, of course, he goes on the offensive again.

grannygoodness 15y ago
These crazed lies and made up quotations come to you from one Travis Wichert, employee of liquidweb.com who allow him to use company resources and servers to spread libel and defamation and to harass, stalk, etc on company time. Liquidweb.com Official Endorser of Domestic Harassment since hiring Travis Wichert, a pathetic tool who graduated from DeVrye Technical "School"
grannygoodness 15y ago
This is Google's cache of http://www.linkedin.com/in/twichert http://www.linkedin.com/in/twichert. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Mar 17, 2012 14:57:22 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime. Learn more Text-only version These search terms are highlighted: travis wichert linkedin LinkedIn Join Today Sign In Travis Wichert Travis Wichert Systems Engineer at Liquid Web Eaton Rapids, Michigan (Lansing, Michigan Area) Information Technology and Services Join LinkedIn and access Travis Wichert’s full profile. As a LinkedIn member, you'll join 150 million other professionals who are sharing connections, ideas, and opportunities. And it's free! You'll also be able to: See who you and Travis Wichert know in common Get introduced to Travis Wichert Contact Travis Wichert directly View Full Profile Travis Wichert's Overview Current Systems Engineer / Senior Systems Administrator at Liquid Web Past IT Consultant at Network Administrative Services IT Cowboy at Compass & Scale IT Consultant, Systems Administrator at Denali Advanced Integration see all Education DeVry University Keller Graduate School of Management of DeVry University Recommendations 7 people have recommended Travis Connections 131 connections Websites Current Resume Travis Wichert's Summary I'm a fun and innovative geek who loves the interdisciplinary challenges the information technology field provides. I've been in the these trenches for about two decades, so I've gained some perspective of the long-view on managing technology, growth, and -- most importantly -- change. Most of my professional experience is in systems engineering, systems administration, project management, and networking. My favorite projects creatively push the limits of existing technologies in a way that somewhat resembles invention, but built from proven building blocks. My current favorite example is my recent work creating a Windows and Linux "emulsion" from which Windows cloud servers are born. Specialties I am OS agnostic and am most fluent in BSD, Linux, and MS Windows. I have deployed many WLANs and dealt with local and wide-area networks at all OSI layers. I find enjoyment in project management and risk assessments. I aim to be as plug-and-play as possible, Travis Wichert's Experience Systems Engineer / Senior Systems Administrator Liquid Web Privately Held; 201-500 employees; Internet industry June 2009 – Present (2 years 10 months) Lansing, Michigan Area I architect and admin internally-facing systems, provide buck-stops-here support for customers with demanding needs, and develop cutting-edge next-gen hosting products. IT Consultant Network Administrative Services April 2006 – September 2009 (3 years 6 months) Greater Seattle Area I worked with NAS as a sub-contractor through my firm, Compass & Scale. IT Cowboy Compass & Scale April 2006 – September 2009 (3 years 6 months) Greater Seattle Area As a small business owner, I provided IT service and support to small- and medium-sized businesses, and the occasional individual, directly and through relationships with reputable consulting companies. IT Consultant, Systems Administrator Denali Advanced Integration Privately Held; 201-500 employees; Information Technology and Services industry January 2002 – January 2004 (2 years 1 month) Redmond, WA I worked many different projects. Some of the more memorable were: HIS/EMR/ERP deployments, software support/test, network engineering, fault surveillance automation and reporting, traffic optimization, spam filtering, and custom routers and VPN firewalls. NOC Engineer Earthlink/Mindspring Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; xide; Telecommunications industry September 1999 – April 2001 (1 year 8 months) Provide tier 1 and 2 support for all flavors of service-affecting issues. Escalated to SA and NetEng whenever the issue was outside of my support scope. Designed a more automated fault surveillance system for dial-up POPs. Senior Technician Geeks to Go Computers, LLC 1998 – 1999 (1 year) In-house and on-site computer and network repairs. Travis Wichert's Education DeVry University Networking and Communications Management, Business, Logic, Networking, IT Systems 2002 – 2006 Keller Graduate School of Management of DeVry University MBA, Business, Economics, Information Security 2006 Still working on it... Travis Wichert's Additional Information Websites: Current Resume Interests: painting, geocaching, cooking, puzzles, hiking, putting sounds together in a pleasing way, networking everything, building things, working with my hands, laughing, smiling, volunteering, dorking around on the internet, driving a tractor, solving problems, trying to get a robotics club up and running at the local high school Groups and Associations: IEEE, PMI Cloud Computing Executives logo Cloud Computing Executives DeVry University Alumni (Official) logo DeVry University Alumni (Official) EarthLink Alumni logo EarthLink Alumni Enkompass by cPanel - For Windows Hosting Servers logo Enkompass by cPanel - For Windows Hosting Servers Liquid Web Heroes -- Employees of Liquid Web logo Liquid Web Heroes -- Employees of Liquid Web MindSpring Alumni logo MindSpring Alumni Parallels Hosting logo Parallels Hosting Parallels Virtualization Group logo Parallels Virtualization Group TEDxDetroit logo TEDxDetroit VDI User Group logo VDI User Group WebHostingTalk logo WebHostingTalk cPanel Conference logo cPanel Conference cPanel Official Company Group logo cPanel Official Company Group Contact Travis for: career opportunities consulting offers new ventures job inquiries expertise requests business deals reference requests getting back in touch View Travis Wichert’s full profile to... See who you and Travis Wichert know in common Get introduced to Travis Wichert Contact Travis Wichert directly View Full Profile Name Search: Search for people you know from over 150 million professionals already on LinkedIn. Example: Jeff Weiner Viewers of this profile also viewed... Matt Aurand Monitoring Systems Administrator at... Patrick Hawkins Systems Administrator - Trainer at... Jennifer 'Benny' Crampton Security/Abuse Engineer Matt Jones System Administrator at Liquid Web Steven Collins Security Team Supervisor LinkedIn member directory - Browse members by country a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z more By using this site, you agree to LinkedIn's terms of use. Commercial use of this site without express authorization is prohibited. LinkedIn Corporation © 2011 User Agreement Privacy Policy Copyright Policy