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> I’m surprised there isn’t a price cut Apple TV “stick”. (a $99 price point) would juuuuust crossover into the “good enough” zone for me, Is that $30 really

> I’m surprised there isn’t a price cut Apple TV “stick”. (a $99 price point) would juuuuust crossover into the “good enough” zone for me, Is that $30 really make-or-break for you? Apple TV's entry model is already only $129.00 USD, and the hardware is really really nice. Easily the fastest and most fluid interface of any "TV Stick" I've used (nicer than any Chromecast / Roku / Fire TV stick, nicer than any built-in smart stuff from LG/Samsung/Vizio), while also having the least amount of advertisements of anything you can buy. I don't love Apple's high premium pricing on a lot of their products. But the Apple TV doesn't really have that, it's competitively priced with alternatives (a base Apple TV is only like $30 more than the equivalent Fire TV Cube, and only $5 more than the nVidia Shield TV)

rjuyal 3y ago
For me it was close battle between Apple TV and Nvidia shield pro. But no Stremio on Apple TV was deal breaker.
graypegg 3y ago
Apple still grades their AppleTV boxes by local storage amounts. For 128GB it’s 150$. IMO that sort of weirdness positions it just a little too far from a chromecast/roku/fire stick for the average person wanting to escape their smart TV garbage OS. The 64GB box is still 130$, and people might not even understand why they need any disk space at all. (I don’t use much of my Apple TV’s 64GB) The fire stick at 40$ looks pretty good in that light. Why pay more? It would just sell better at 99$ IMO, and there’s obvious things to cut to create apple’s usual “price ladder”. I’m not using the games, nor am I using more than 8GB of storage.
- sigilis 3y ago
  It is unlikely that Apple would make a worse product in this category to enter a price war that they cannot win. Part of the Apple strategy is to be seen as the best option, and pricing is a part of that. You’re paying to have an experience that is about serving you rather than advertisers. If that’s worth money to you, buy it. Otherwise, you get what you pay for: as crappy a device they can get away with, subsidized by ads.

rjuyal 3y ago

For me it was close battle between Apple TV and Nvidia shield pro. But no Stremio on Apple TV was deal breaker.

graypegg 3y ago

Apple still grades their AppleTV boxes by local storage amounts. For 128GB it’s 150$. IMO that sort of weirdness positions it just a little too far from a chromecast/roku/fire stick for the average person wanting to escape their smart TV garbage OS. The 64GB box is still 130$, and people might not even understand why they need any disk space at all. (I don’t use much of my Apple TV’s 64GB) The fire stick at 40$ looks pretty good in that light. Why pay more? It would just sell better at 99$ IMO, and there’s obvious things to cut to create apple’s usual “price ladder”. I’m not using the games, nor am I using more than 8GB of storage.

sigilis 3y ago
It is unlikely that Apple would make a worse product in this category to enter a price war that they cannot win. Part of the Apple strategy is to be seen as the best option, and pricing is a part of that. You’re paying to have an experience that is about serving you rather than advertisers. If that’s worth money to you, buy it. Otherwise, you get what you pay for: as crappy a device they can get away with, subsidized by ads.