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> He currently has an iPhone but if android phones are superior for blind users, I would happily help him switch. They are roughly identical in a11y, there is

by zie 3y ago

> He currently has an iPhone but if android phones are superior for blind users, I would happily help him switch. They are roughly identical in a11y, there is no point in switching. Apple got there first, and they had full-time blind developers on staff working on it first, so they got first mover a11y advantage, but mostly now it's a wash between the two. > Does anyone have recommendations for how to help set this up? If "holidays" mean the weekend, anything more than getting Siri turned on is probably pushing it. If "holidays" mean through New Years, then you have a much better chance of being useful. Unless you are going to be there in person long-term to help him, you are better off getting him connected with someone that will, preferably a family member close by or an organization dedicated to the blind, that can help him adapt his life. Otherwise just https://www.apple.com/accessibility/vision/ https://www.apple.com/accessibility/vision/ and turn those things on that make sense for him, make sure he knows how to talk to Siri and access to audiobooks/podcasts, etc.

scarface_74 3y ago
That may be true with regards to iOS vs Android. But there are a few things you’re missing - a much larger community of blind iOS users, consistency in devices - ie you always know that you’re going to get a minimum quality - longer device operating system updates and Apple Stores for in person support.
- zie 3y ago
  I said Apple got 1st mover advantage, which is what that means, they got more blind/deaf/a11y needing users than android first. Most never bothered to switch off, because there is no reason to. > longer device operating system updates and Apple Stores for in person support That's outside of a11y stuff, irrelevant for this context. Though I agree, for non-technical users, if you happen to live near an Apple store, it's a way better experience than any Android phone when something goes wrong.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    How is it irrelevant? Apple comes out with better accessibility features every year and I’m sure Google does too. You don’t see any difference between getting feature updates for years on your existing device than not getting updates? And on top of that, you can pick any iOS device and know you’re going to get a good device where all of the features work well and not have to worry about OEM and carrier installed alternatives that aren’t well supported.

by zie 3y ago

scarface_74 3y ago

That may be true with regards to iOS vs Android. But there are a few things you’re missing - a much larger community of blind iOS users, consistency in devices - ie you always know that you’re going to get a minimum quality - longer device operating system updates and Apple Stores for in person support.

zie 3y ago
I said Apple got 1st mover advantage, which is what that means, they got more blind/deaf/a11y needing users than android first. Most never bothered to switch off, because there is no reason to. > longer device operating system updates and Apple Stores for in person support That's outside of a11y stuff, irrelevant for this context. Though I agree, for non-technical users, if you happen to live near an Apple store, it's a way better experience than any Android phone when something goes wrong.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  How is it irrelevant? Apple comes out with better accessibility features every year and I’m sure Google does too. You don’t see any difference between getting feature updates for years on your existing device than not getting updates? And on top of that, you can pick any iOS device and know you’re going to get a good device where all of the features work well and not have to worry about OEM and carrier installed alternatives that aren’t well supported.