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Used MIAB for years -- one install, about 20 domains, most low volume but 1-2 sending tens of thousands of emails a month. Some notes: * Every thread that ment
by gwbrooks 3y ago
Used MIAB for years -- one install, about 20 domains, most low volume but 1-2 sending tens of thousands of emails a month. Some notes:
* Every thread that mentions hosting your own email brings out the it's-pointless-do-do-your-own-mail zealots; ignore them. If you're interested in trying it, try it.
* The only deliverability issues I ever had were with ATT networks because they don't use modern TLS; that was fixable. Mail to Google? Goes through, doesn't go into spam. Mail to Microsoft? Ditto. And this is on a Digital Ocean VM, which isn't the most reputable IP pool in the world.
* MIAB will happily be your full-fledged authoritative DNS server. Although I've since migrated to separating DNS from mail hosting, it was very convenient for a long time.
* Setup is dirt simple. And you get MTA-STS as well as DANE/DNSSEC right out of the box.
* The backup function worked without issue the one time I needed it. I'm sufficiently paranoid that I also do regular snapshots of the whole VM.
* There's a fork, Power Mail In A Box, that updates the UI, adds the ability to plug in relayhost settings, and does a few other nice things. It hasn't been updated in about a year, but was similarly solid.
My only quibble with MIAB, and the reason I migrated to Mailcow recently, is that I wanted to easily set up per-domain relay settings from the UI.
- brightball 3y agoTo echo this, IP reputations update every few months. You may just need to buy and hold to clean it up.
- eurekin 3y agoI'm on the fence. I wanted to do a super simple app hosting service on the Odroid SBC. I have few services running, but two of them: Authelia and Gitea need smtp for some actually valid reason. Would you recommend hosting for that use case?
- gwbrooks 3y agoIf all I needed was SMTP? I'd likely just use Amazon SES or Mailgun. I know some folks have concerns with the privacy of that(1), and really want to run their own SMTP. If that's the case, Mail In A Box can do the job, or you can go with a pure SMTP solution like https://github.com/ix-ai/smtp https://github.com/ix-ai/smtp (not endorsing it -- it's just been on my radar) or a roll-your-own Postfix/Exim solution. The latter requires almost zero resources after it's set up; slap it on a $20/year VM and you're done. 1. Chasing privacy with email is a chimera. If you really want private communications, email is not the tool.
- bugsmith 3y agoAmazon SES is great, because you pay per email and the rate is incredibly cheap. Mailgun is very expensive though, and the problem is they have a very limited free tier, and then you must jump up to a $35/year package that gives 50,000 emails - this is simply far too much for many projects early on in their rollout. I prefer something like Brevo, which has smaller jumps per tier or even something like MXRoute for $49 per year (limit of 300 emails/hour) Edit: Completely forgot about ZeptoMail by Zoho - incredibly good value service.
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- eurekin 3y agoOh, that's only for "fun". Playing with quick deployment of throwaway apps. No real privacy expectation. Of course it would be nice to learn along the way
- 3np 3y agoSounds like MIB is overkill and way more than you need. I'd still suggest setting up a dedicated self-hosted postfix for your services yourself. Start with local-only delivery. Then you can set it up to forward using external services (or indeed MIB or something similar if you end up self-hosting email on top of that) should you want to and you consolidate future changes of automated external mail delivery to a single point.
- eurekin 3y agoI ended up with mailu. What got me interested is their integration with traefik. It just worked. Not without 9 hours of finding out the right proxy settings, but know I'm attached to it like to IKEA furniture. On a more serious note, they showed an example of properly proxying a imap/smtp SSL connection. If you asked me before integrating it, I'd have thought it might be impossible, since SMTP has some STARTTLS negotation baked into protocol. I only knew how to proxy SSL in HTTP and never knew that bare TCP can be used to PROXY and terminate tls as well.