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Oh man, not this girl again. Let's just say she is known for being at the center of drama wherever she goes. She has a very long history of libel and public feu
by lawnchair_larry 15y ago
Oh man, not this girl again. Let's just say she is known for being at the center of drama wherever she goes. She has a very long history of libel and public feuds related to her "music project." In one of many incidents, her and her mother sent DMCA takedown requests to LiveJournal based on negative information being posted by another user (completely unrelated to copyright).
Please do not give her attention. At least, don't give kickstarter negative attention over her complaint.
[Edit: Removed comment regarding mental illness and links to other forums]
- rms 15y agoOld drama is uninteresting. What's wrong with being mentally ill? I'm definitely not neurotypical, just like half of Silicon Valley geeks. Try raising VC money in Silicon Valley without projecting the image of irrationally exuberant hypomania. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/bill-nguyen-startups http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/160/bill-nguyen-startups Your comment is exactly the kind that threatens to make this thread a trainwreck. Be nice! Rachel is a very real person that can't raise money on Kickstarter because Kickstarter can't deal with one asshole posting 400 spam comments.
- reason 15y agoRight, so, no counterargument or evidence being provided from Kickstarter is OK in criticizing them, and any evidence that this person may have a history of causing similar types of drama is 'uninteresting'? You're persistent in asking people to be civil towards Rachel, yet are completely fine with the bashing of Kickstarter without giving them a chance to make their case. Sounds reasonable. Guess what? Kickstarter isn't just an institution outlined by a few hundred federal documents. They're run by real people!
- rms 15y agoI expect Kickstarter to have a sober, well reasoned response to this by Monday afternoon. Hopefully faster. It would have been nice if Rachel was nicer to Kickstarter in her post, but she wasn't so here we are. It's not like I like this being #1 on Hacker News. This is sort of an awful story. I would have liked to have gone to sleep by now, but respect Rachel enough and have fond enough memories of the time when Hacker News didn't suck that I wanted to try and make this comment thread something resembling rational and reasonable.
- b2rock 15y agoIt is always a fine line. It will be interesting and telling in how Kickstarter will respond to this. You remember the Air BnB set of events...
- jasonlotito 15y ago> Rachel is a very real person that can't raise money on Kickstarter because Kickstarter can't deal with one asshole posting 400 spam comments. And again, do you have anything to suppor that claim beside italicized text on a blog? If not, then you only have an accusation made.
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- lawnchair_larry 15y agoI am not trying to pick on the mentally ill or be rude. Unfortunately in this case, I've seen her behavior be highly disruptive to the detriment of others for about 6 years now. I have friends in the music industry (where I thought her drama was confined to) and have been exposed to her in person. I felt that I had to post a warning, because the internet mob is already all over kickstarter for this. I am actually somewhat annoyed that she is causing trouble in other social circles of mine and am going to refrain from posting about it further. I'm not a fan of drama and find her antics incredibly exhausting.
- grannygoodness 15y agoactually 5 people made those comments, and 1/4 were from Rachel and 1/3 were from her boyfriend David "Lefty" Schlesinger attacking the remaining 1/6 by someone trying merely to point out that Rachel failed to produce the goal of her last KS, for which she got $3,000.00. 3k to do nothing. that is fraud. there were a couple of random trolls also posting. Most of it was Schlesinger, really thumping his chest and chimping out, as usual.
- analog 15y ago"She is, by her own admission, mentally ill" Well, not really. From your link, "I am on disability because I was kicked out of this "mansion" at a young age and locked up in a mental institution. Among other reasons that I don't feel like discussing with you."
- llambda 15y ago> She is, by her own admission, mentally ill.[1] I see that she says she was kicked out of her home when she was 16 and placed in a mental health facility[1]. But this is not the same as having a mental illness. Certainly it's been the case before that a perfectly healthful individual has ended up in such an institution. Especially people suffering from emotional trauma that they are unable to handle on their own. [1] 'I am on disability because I was kicked out of this "mansion" at a young age and locked up in a mental institution.'
- mistercow 15y ago> She is, by her own admission, mentally ill. "Mental illness" is a very broad term that can mean a lot of things, and the last thing people affected by it need is for people to perpetuate its stigmatization on the internet. That someone has suffered from some unspecified form of mental illness does not automatically make them untrustworthy.
- grannygoodness 15y agoyes, yes it does make them untrustworthy. by definition schizophrenic people do comprehend truth from fantasy, and Rachel "Marone" Mendelson is most definitely in that group. She is an infamous liar, and somewhat skilled at getting the credulous to buy into her deranged notions, at least for a while...
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- randomsanta 15y agoElectric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations posted May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment) Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism: "For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor that Ben DeWalt, my friend, co-conspirator, and the founder of Terrofakt, is a Nazi. This could not be further from the truth. Ben has been our close friend for nearly 15 years, and we know that he is anything but a white supremacist. For the last few years I have had the privilege to play with Ben, as a member of Terrorfakt. During this time, I have come to know Ben much better than I ever did during the years that he represented the EHC. He is my close friend, and comrade in arms. He is a proud patriotic American, who firmly believes in the values that this great nation was founded on... among those being that all of us are created equal. "My time with Terrorfakt has introduced me to many other associated acts and musicians, and to Terrorfakt's fanatically loyal fan base, all being of various ethnic and even religious backgrounds. Accordingly, I can categorically deny that any of these accusations have any merit to them. This smear campaign against Ben is perpetuated by an Industrial music outcast named Rachel Mandelson. She is more 'popularly' known as the idiot behind 'Experiment Haywire.' She is an individual who has failed to garner any success on her own, and has taken to making slanderous and libelous accusations against a much more popular and successful act, in order to gain attention for herself. "Her entire issue with Terrorfakt stems from Ben's refusal to peddle her merch at a music festival that she gained illegal entry to, thereby denying the performing bands (and promoter) their just compensation. She blames everyone but herself for her failure as a musician, and claiming that Ben has ruined her 'career' because of her Jewish heritage is her way of trying to garner sympathy through portraying herself as a victim, rather that simply a failure. I have long been a believer in the old show business saying of 'There is no such thing as bad press,' and to automatically confirm any rumor told about me (or the EHC) as being true. However, Ben finds the contention of his being a Nazi to be offensive, and clearing his name is of personal importance to him. To that end, I have felt the need to address the issue publicly, and to support my friend. I ask you, our fans, to help put a stop to this rumor, by correcting anyone that you hear repeating it, and to not support Rachel Mandelson or Experiment Haywire in any way." Kent Below is a repost from Kinetik Productions Inc.: Kinetik Productions Inc Montreal (Qc) Canada NEQ: 1164635469 www.festival-kinetik.net Object : Rachel Haywire / machineKUNT Records / Experiment Haywire Montréal, November 29th 2009, Kinetik Productions wishes to bring to your attention the continual attack from Ms. Haywire against the Kinetik Festival and Kinetik Productions company image. Over the past 3 years, we have asked several websites to remove her harmful and derogative comments concerning the Kinetik Festival and the musical acts present during the festival. Unfortunately, she had made a personal business to attack the festival and some bands performing during Kinetik festival, without investigating the alleged facts. She tried to put down the festival based on her statements. The severity and frequency of her false allegations gives us no choice but to warn you against Ms Rachel Haywire. For the past three years, we had to get in touch with Ms Haywire in order to ask her to stop these repeated, intrusive and unwanted words, intended to adversely affect the reputation of the bands and the Kinetik festival. She, unfortunately, neglected to answer our demands and continued attacking the festival and its acts. The Kinetik festival mission is to cultivate originality, innovation and diversity in the musical performance arena. During this event, several emerging and well-established artists gather in Montreal to celebrate. We have worked hard to bring together this dream and cannot tolerate Ms Haywire incessant and derogatory comments. The Festival past editions have shown the audience, the industry and the musicians how professional, distinguish and well organized the festival is. In collaboration with the major labels, production companies and bands, Kinetik Festival is pleased to bring together the largest North American electro-Industrial festival. With this letter, we wish to raise the concern and bring to your attention this abnormal situation, as some of you may have worked in collaboration with Ms. Haywire in the past. In many occasion, Ms Haywise made disparaging comments concerning the Kinetik Festival and among other, the band Terrorfakt. Erroneously giving them a Neo-Nazi / white power denominate. She opened numerous website and posted several comments in order to gain some visibility and credibility with these disparaging remarks and trying to affect the festival. Being officially recognized by the Canadian government and other governmental institutions, we cannot, under any circumstance, endorse this form of harassment. We trust that you will take similar action and no longer work with her on any level. Jean-Francois Fortin Gadoury Director Kinetik Productions jffortin@festival-kinetik.net Cc : Metropolis records, Out of Lines records, Blackrain records, Noitekk records, Artoffact Records, Pronoize, Storming the Base, Music None Stop, DSBP, Neuwerk management, Protain management, Soman, Blank, Caustic, Leaether Strip, XP8, Ambassador 21, Grendel, Feindflug, Terrorfakt, Hocico, KMFDM, Kommor Komando, Autoclav 1.1, FGFC820, Noisex, Alter Der Ruine, Kiew, *Please feel free to forward this to anyone that may find it interesting and beneficial. over a year ago Kent In my opinion Ms Haywire is one crazy person! over a year ago Rebekka Well duh. The good thing is that everyone knows it....... :) over a year ago Rodentsky Thank's for the official post. I'll put on my group as well. over a year ago Len She's definitely off her rocker! I've known Ben for 17 years, and a Nazi (or neo-Nazi) he's not! Why does Ms. Haywire have to start stuff every year? over a year ago Su That not just your opinion Kent she has been pretty vocal about her "issues" on her personal page. Len I have noticed that people with chemical imbalances tend to peak seasonally in the spring and fall. I am not sure why (?) Ironically she came up in conversation just a few says before this most recent spontaneous combustion and I remarked that she was in some ways admirable. THIS nonsense is just a level of unnecessary crazy and I think she has done irreparable damage this time. I wish she could have funneled her energy more productively. It is rather tragic.
- randomsanta 15y agoMs. Jaeger: It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes. Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanity-is-slavery http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanit... where you can see comments of complaint from its backers: "If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post. 3 of 4 View Previous Comments Fb_profile_picture.thumb Erik Roy Tomren on September 26, 2011 so when is this coming out? the hard copy version, not the download. 1.thumb Cat on February 24 It's a year after this posting, almost two years after this was funded, and I have yet to receive my hard copy of this album. Very displeased. :/ Fb_profile_picture.thumb Steve Cross on March 15 Is the hard copy ever going to appear. A further update would be nice. I am not very happy!!
- randomsanta 15y agoher mother also sent out a pleading email begging people to "stop hurting Rachel's fragile self esteem. You don't know what she has been through." later emails revealed from her own Mother? He mother stated that a crazed Cuban nanny in the mansion (Rachel Mendelson's father was Paul Mendelson who was Janet Reno's top prosecutor for the state of Florida, state assistant DA!) ... well this nanny chopped up Rachel's labia with scissors when Rachel was three years old. This is what her mother states is the origin of all her "mental difficulties."
- pault 15y agoThis is so shockingly inappropriate, I wish I could flag it twice. There is no reason to post information this personal, and completely irrelevant to the conversation here. I believe there is more to this story than the blog post indicates, but you have obviously created this account for malicious purposes. If anyone reading this has the ability to hellban a user, this would be an appropriate time to exercise your authority. That's all I will contribute to this conversation.
- auntjanetreno 15y agoRachel Mendelson-Haywire-Marone does not _deserve_ ANY privacy. Why is that? Rachel MHM is responsible for a website which featured pictures of people nude and having sex on it. These photos were never public, never on the internet until she and a sugar daddy of hers _purchased_ them from a 3rd party. It took _considerable_ legal resources to get this website down, and this MAKES RACHEL MARONE THE WORST KIND OF STALKER! She IS what she accuses others (many others) of!!!
- blingbling23 15y agoThat is a comment from my stalker. Any traces on his location at Hacker News? His real name is Michael Rudra Nath aka. Jason Christopher Hughes. Can provide documentation from the authorities, case files, addresses, screen shots of his death threats, emails he sent me containing child pornography, etc. -Rachel Marone
- slantyyz 15y agoI don't have an opinion on this case, but after reading the comments, I'm wondering if this case is possible: 1 She is a legitimate victim of cyberstalking, with a legitimate beef against Kickstarter 2 She is also an opportunist, using #1 to generate publicity for her project 3 Kickstarter could/should have handled this differently/better For me, I get the impression from the responses here that some think that #1 and #2 above are mutually exclusive, when it's possible they may not be. If #2 is true, it doesn't in my mind invalidate #1 and #3, but it could make me less sympathetic to her cause. I'm not sure we should draw any conclusions based on a blog post from only one side of the 'dispute' (Kickstarter hasn't stated their side), but it's interesting to me how polarizing her blog entry is in this thread.
- grannygoodness 15y agoneil gaiman is always having to stop eating his bran flakes and go untie some goth bitch from the railroad tracks... SAVE ME NEIL GAIMAN! SAVE ME! Rachel Marone Rachel Marone @rachel_marone [Founder of the Extreme Futurist Festival] San Francisco, CA http://rachelmarone.com http://rachelmarone.com Follow 9,295 Tweets 593 Following 1,824 Followers Stay in touch with Rachel Marone Join Twitter today Tweets Following Followers Favorites Lists Recent images © 2012 Twitter About Tweets 1h Rachel Marone Rachel Marone @rachel_marone Open Urgent. Does anyone here work at Slashdot? They are falling for my stalkers harassment. @sfslim @doctorow @neilhimself 40m Neil Gaiman Neil Gaiman @neilhimself Open @rachel_marone that looked pretty obvious. The only Slashdot person I know is @hemos and he has moved on. 37m Rachel Marone Rachel Marone @rachel_marone Open @neilhimself @hemos How can other people not see how obvious this is? What do you think I should do? Neil Gaiman Neil Gaiman @neilhimself Close @rachel_marone file a restraining order? Sigh? 2:51 PM - 15 Apr 12 via web Details Rachel Marone Rachel Marone @rachel_marone Close AND....... here she is ALL coked up at Dave and Busters! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2gQoWXpWRw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2gQoWXpWRw
- grannygoodness 15y agoSlashdot and Reddit – Pwned by Serial Stalker by Rachel Marone 4.16.12 rants I’ve got to say that I have never been this disappointed in the Internet before. Recently I went public about being banned from Kickstarter for being a stalking victim. People on Twitter were extremely supportive of me and helped to get the message out. Kickstarter publicly apologized to me and while they did not email me directly at least they made an effort to set things straight. As for the rest of the Internet I have never seen such an epic fail. The story was posted to Reddit and for a small period of time I was receiving support there. This is what happened next. My stalker, like he always does, began posting hundreds of defamatory comments about me via his numerous sock puppet accounts. It appears that the majority of people on Reddit were stupid enough to fall for it. He began linking to old sites which he harassed me on, posting my personal information, posting old emails with his fabricated drama, etc. The same thing happened on Slashdot. I was receiving support until my stalker began his usual harassment campaign against me. Again he linked to old websites that he harassed me on, posted my personal information, posted old emails with his fabricated drama, etc. I always thought that Slashdot was a cut above the rest but apparently I was wrong. People on Slashdot were just as easily pwned. Not only that but the story was marked as “hoax” and “lies.” Seriously? At least Hacker News is doing a little better. They appear to have deleted all of his comments. I’m still not sure how people on the Internet are this stupid. Obviously if my stalker was able to spam over 300 comments to Kickstarter he’d be able to do the same thing to Reddit and Slashdot. This seems like common sense to me. Yet somehow I am the one who is crazy. The level of fail here is so epic I am still in shock. Time to go occupy a few new brain cells. Nice try Mario but your princess is in another castle.