Yep. In pretty much every team I was in, devs would always push for "their own version of Scrum" that differed from the PO, which always ended up being much clo

Yep. In pretty much every team I was in, devs would always push for "their own version of Scrum" that differed from the PO, which always ended up being much closer to vanilla Scrum than whatever some crazy PO or Scrum Master wanted. Also funny: when the PM is is actually good, you barely have to discuss "the process". Almost any shit just fucking works. Who knew.