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Riots. Nothing is known yet about the attack and its motives, but we know the motives for the riots.

tgv 3y ago
Actually, it's the other way around. I don't think anyone has yet declared their motives to riot, but the perp has been identified as Algerian. It's also true that the rioters probably knew this.
- plaguna 3y ago
  Source?
  - tgv 3y ago
    Various socials pushed it quite quickly. The more mainstream media are reluctant, but the others print it like there's no tomorrow. https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-dublin-stabbing-algerian-man-riots-looting-immigration-garda-1846599 https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-dublin-stabbing-algerian-ma... https://humanevents.com/2023/11/23/breaking-protests-erupt-in-ireland-as-suspect-in-stabbing-of-5-in-dublin-reported-to-be-algerian-national https://humanevents.com/2023/11/23/breaking-protests-erupt-i...
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- loeg 3y ago
  > the perp has been identified as Algerian The BBC says otherwise: > It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. > Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960
  - poisonarena 3y ago
    So he is an Algerian immigrant
    - djohnston 3y ago
      [flagged]
  - wyldfire 3y ago
    The beeb also says that the guy (a guy?) who intervened is an immigrant from Brazil. > Brazilian Caio Benicio was riding past the scene in the city centre on Thursday afternoon and stopped to intervene. > Mr Benicio has been living in the Republic of Ireland for the past year and works as a fast-food courier for Deliveroo.
  - tgv 3y ago
    > Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years. Do you really think that's saying otherwise? It's almost a confirmation. Statements like this pour oil on the fire. "See, you can't trust what the BBC says."
  - djohnston 3y ago
    If he has lived in the country for 20 years, and he’s in his late 40s, what does that make him? Don’t strain yourself too hard.
myth_drannon 3y ago
Among all the countries in Europe, I expected Ireland to be the last to harbour anti-Muslim, anti-refugee sentiment with all their very vocal support for Palestine.
- switch007 3y ago
  Don't assume their vocal support for Palestine is actual support for Palestine. The Irish are very, very good at PR (and being highly defensive when being criticised). It's the only place I've lived or visited that I've experienced real xenophobia, and homophobic attacks (yet they bang on about legalising gay marriage and opinion polls on the support of it - this is my point exactly). Also with their housing crisis, the tides have turned, and they're not so pro-immigration/pro-refugee now.
- circlefavshape 3y ago
  I expect there is no country in the world with no anti-immigrant sentiment. The Palestine thing IMO is mostly Irish people identifying with a weak country being bullied by a strong neighbour, which is unsurprising given Ireland's history
  - Rapzid 3y ago
    Everybody loves an underdog.
- arp242 3y ago
  There's five million people in the country. And even though you can say some general things, not all five million always agree. Plus you can be in favour of self-determination while at the same time being anti-immigration, or discriminating.

tgv 3y ago

Actually, it's the other way around. I don't think anyone has yet declared their motives to riot, but the perp has been identified as Algerian. It's also true that the rioters probably knew this.

plaguna 3y ago
Source?
- tgv 3y ago
  Various socials pushed it quite quickly. The more mainstream media are reluctant, but the others print it like there's no tomorrow. https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-dublin-stabbing-algerian-man-riots-looting-immigration-garda-1846599 https://www.newsweek.com/ireland-dublin-stabbing-algerian-ma... https://humanevents.com/2023/11/23/breaking-protests-erupt-in-ireland-as-suspect-in-stabbing-of-5-in-dublin-reported-to-be-algerian-national https://humanevents.com/2023/11/23/breaking-protests-erupt-i...
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loeg 3y ago
> the perp has been identified as Algerian The BBC says otherwise: > It is understood that included false claims that the attacker was a foreign national. > Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-67514960
- poisonarena 3y ago
  So he is an Algerian immigrant
  - djohnston 3y ago
    [flagged]
- wyldfire 3y ago
  The beeb also says that the guy (a guy?) who intervened is an immigrant from Brazil. > Brazilian Caio Benicio was riding past the scene in the city centre on Thursday afternoon and stopped to intervene. > Mr Benicio has been living in the Republic of Ireland for the past year and works as a fast-food courier for Deliveroo.
- tgv 3y ago
  > Sources have indicated to the BBC that the man suspected of carrying out the attack is an Irish citizen in his late 40s who has lived in the country for 20 years. Do you really think that's saying otherwise? It's almost a confirmation. Statements like this pour oil on the fire. "See, you can't trust what the BBC says."
- djohnston 3y ago
  If he has lived in the country for 20 years, and he’s in his late 40s, what does that make him? Don’t strain yourself too hard.

myth_drannon 3y ago

Among all the countries in Europe, I expected Ireland to be the last to harbour anti-Muslim, anti-refugee sentiment with all their very vocal support for Palestine.

switch007 3y ago
Don't assume their vocal support for Palestine is actual support for Palestine. The Irish are very, very good at PR (and being highly defensive when being criticised). It's the only place I've lived or visited that I've experienced real xenophobia, and homophobic attacks (yet they bang on about legalising gay marriage and opinion polls on the support of it - this is my point exactly). Also with their housing crisis, the tides have turned, and they're not so pro-immigration/pro-refugee now.
circlefavshape 3y ago
I expect there is no country in the world with no anti-immigrant sentiment. The Palestine thing IMO is mostly Irish people identifying with a weak country being bullied by a strong neighbour, which is unsurprising given Ireland's history
- Rapzid 3y ago
  Everybody loves an underdog.
arp242 3y ago
There's five million people in the country. And even though you can say some general things, not all five million always agree. Plus you can be in favour of self-determination while at the same time being anti-immigration, or discriminating.