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Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would ha
by madsbuch 3y ago
Given that the US doest not have an official language, this rings a weird bell. Had the been England or any other country with an official language, it would have been something.
In particular with the history of California and the proximity to Mexico, the opposite (that more than 50% speaks english) should be the story.
- jjgreen 3y agoThe UK does not have an official language.
- OnlyMortal 3y agoCorrect. It’s the defacto. Indeed, there’s even no official version of English unlike, say, French and Dutch.
- jjgreen 3y agoThat there is no Académie anglaise is a fact which surprises and appalls the French.
- switch007 3y agoThe degree to which we do not care what the French think about our lack of an official body overseeing and dictating the language of English can not be accurately described in words. We would have to invent a new unit of measurement to measure it. :)
- HKH2 3y agoPrescriptivism only gets you so far.
- switch007 3y agoDe facto it does De jure, Wales does Cambridge Dictionary defines official language as: > the language or one of the languages that is accepted by a country's government, is taught in schools, used in the courts of law, etc. There is no debate whatsoever that English meets that criteria in the UK
- jameshart 3y agoBut by that criterion the US also has an official language.
- switch007 3y agoYes, the de facto language of the US is English. What's your argument there?
- sin7 3y agoDe facto is not the same as official.
- switch007 3y agoNot much of an argument but when it comes to English it is. “Official” as in widely and universally recognised and accepted by government authorities? English in the UK (and US) absolutely is Though now we’re just descending in to semantics which is not very entertaining
- hot_gril 3y agoCalifornia recognizes Spanish quite a bit, including on official forms like the DMV.
- chrisan 3y agoThe federal govt does not have an official language but individual states may state one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Official_languages_of_U.S._states_and_territories https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Official_languages_of... California is one
- justrealist 3y agoCalifornia was almost empty when it was annexed into the US. Disease etc. Immigration from the rest of the English-speaking US completely dwarfed what was left. Almost 100% of Spanish-speaking Californians have come in the past 50-70 years. Basically none have historical roots to California.
- eduardo_f 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californios https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californios
- aegypti 3y ago…the 15.2 million California Hispanics, who total 40% of California's population. 2004 studies estimated that between 300,000 and 500,000 have ancestry descended from the Spanish and Mexican eras of California Parent comment is mostly correct, californios are an insignificant part of California in comparison to eg Tejanos.
- Spooky23 3y agoI'd imagine in a 70 year timeline, easily 80% of the population has no historical roots to California!
- 29athrowaway 3y agoNot accurate. What is known as the American state of California was part of the state of Alta California in Mexico, which was annexed by the US during the Mexican American war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_California https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alta_California Years later, the Mexicans as well as their descendants, who were Americans by Jus soli (birthright citizenship) were ethnically cleansed during the Mexican Repatriation, where they were kidnapped, put into buses and trucks and sent to Mexico. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation Many Mexicans are mestizos (mixed with Native Americans), so they have a deeper connection to the land dating to tens of thousands of years and this is reflected in the population genetic haplogroups.
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