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This looks so cool for people learning to program. Is there anything these days that is simple for making a simple gui app, like shoooes was?

RodgerTheGreat 3y ago
If you want something like Shoes, perhaps try PySimpleGUI or Redlang's "view" dialect. If you want a drag-and-drop visual builder like HyperCard, you might like Decker: https://beyondloom.com/decker/ https://beyondloom.com/decker/
- Wowfunhappy 3y ago
  Re: Decker, I these "continuing the legacy of Hypercard" tools didn't also continue with the aesthetics of Mac System 6. At that point just use MiniVMac. Why not embrace 32 bit color and high resolution?
  - jhbadger 3y ago
    Well, there is Cardstock, which is a Hypercard-like in progress written in Python (and which uses Python as its language rather than a Hypertalk-like). It seems a bit more modern in that it isn't going for the 1980s Mac aesthetic. https://github.com/benjie-git/CardStock https://github.com/benjie-git/CardStock
  - imiric 3y ago
    > Why not embrace 32 bit color and high resolution? It's a deliberate design decision, which hearkens back to an era when computing was simple. I appreciate it. > At that point just use MiniVMac. Decker has many modern improvements though: > It retains the simplicity and ease of learning that HyperCard provided, while adding many subtle and overt quality-of-life improvements, like deep undo history, support for scroll wheels and touchscreens, more modern keyboard navigation, and bulk editing operations. I personally like that it can output standalone HTML documents, uses a VCS friendly format, and its language can be used from the CLI. It seems like a great project, in the same vein as Lua, LÖVE, Carousel, PICO-8, etc. In an era of complex, bloated, slow, opaque, and often hostile software, these projects are a breath of fresh air.
  - RodgerTheGreat 3y ago
    Because I don't care for what those things do to programming environments. If you take more than a superficial look at Decker, you might find it is capable of quite a bit more than HyperCard in an emulated Mac Plus. If you want it to look different, the project is free, open source, and permissively licensed; do as you please.
speps 3y ago
Found this the other day: https://qb64.com/inform.html https://qb64.com/inform.html

RodgerTheGreat 3y ago

If you want something like Shoes, perhaps try PySimpleGUI or Redlang's "view" dialect. If you want a drag-and-drop visual builder like HyperCard, you might like Decker: https://beyondloom.com/decker/ https://beyondloom.com/decker/

Wowfunhappy 3y ago
Re: Decker, I these "continuing the legacy of Hypercard" tools didn't also continue with the aesthetics of Mac System 6. At that point just use MiniVMac. Why not embrace 32 bit color and high resolution?
- jhbadger 3y ago
  Well, there is Cardstock, which is a Hypercard-like in progress written in Python (and which uses Python as its language rather than a Hypertalk-like). It seems a bit more modern in that it isn't going for the 1980s Mac aesthetic. https://github.com/benjie-git/CardStock https://github.com/benjie-git/CardStock
- imiric 3y ago
  > Why not embrace 32 bit color and high resolution? It's a deliberate design decision, which hearkens back to an era when computing was simple. I appreciate it. > At that point just use MiniVMac. Decker has many modern improvements though: > It retains the simplicity and ease of learning that HyperCard provided, while adding many subtle and overt quality-of-life improvements, like deep undo history, support for scroll wheels and touchscreens, more modern keyboard navigation, and bulk editing operations. I personally like that it can output standalone HTML documents, uses a VCS friendly format, and its language can be used from the CLI. It seems like a great project, in the same vein as Lua, LÖVE, Carousel, PICO-8, etc. In an era of complex, bloated, slow, opaque, and often hostile software, these projects are a breath of fresh air.
- RodgerTheGreat 3y ago
  Because I don't care for what those things do to programming environments. If you take more than a superficial look at Decker, you might find it is capable of quite a bit more than HyperCard in an emulated Mac Plus. If you want it to look different, the project is free, open source, and permissively licensed; do as you please.

speps 3y ago

Found this the other day: https://qb64.com/inform.html https://qb64.com/inform.html