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No, 'they' voted for Brexit so the UK's borders and immigration policies could be controlled by politicians accountable to the people of the UK. But they didn't
by Veen 3y ago
No, 'they' voted for Brexit so the UK's borders and immigration policies could be controlled by politicians accountable to the people of the UK. But they didn't predict that a Conservative Party promising reduced immigration would, in fact, increase it to the highest levels in history. One reason they're heading for catastrophic electoral defeat in the near future.
- hobs 3y agoSo "yes" would be a shorter way to say this.
- carlosjobim 3y agoWho could have predicted, right? It's just what conservative parties in Europe have done every time they've gotten the chance in the past few decades.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>No, 'they' voted for Brexit so the UK's borders and immigration policies could be controlled by politicians accountable to the people of the UK You can't possibly tell me with a straight face that the EU was in any way controlling your borders before. The EU has no power over border control enforcement.
- regularfry 3y agoThat doesn't stop people being fooled into thinking otherwise.
- Veen 3y agoI think consecutive Governments have used immigration to shore up GDP and blamed someone else for the problems it causes, whether that's the EU, the civil service, human rights lawyers, or whomever.
- mytailorisrich 3y agoWell if people are dissatisfied about how the Conservatives are handling immigration then surely Labour is the last party they would vote for for a tougher stance on the issue, right? Or we might see a surprising good performance of "Reform UK" but the end result will still likely be Labour in government. That's why the PVV wins in the Netherlands, and similar parties grow everywhere: both left and right traditional parties have refused to tackle immigration.
- regularfry 3y agoYou say that, but... https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/labours-anti-immigrant-mug-worst-part-it-isnt-gaffe https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/03/labours-anti-i...
- mytailorisrich 3y agoYou'd be a mug to believe that, indeed.
- Veen 3y agoIt's not believable. All major parties in the UK talk tough on immigration control and then increase immigration.
- Veen 3y agoWell there's the pickle we're in. The Conservatives talk center-right but are essentially Blairite in their actions—they seem to be doubling down on that approach with the return of Cameron to government. There's a massive gap to the right of the Tories, and someone's going to fill it. Hopefully, it'll be moderate right-wingers, but there's a danger the right will split into factions and we'll have a resurgent far right making trouble for everyone plus a center-left party perpetually in Government and unwilling to address any issues around immigration (in spite of what they might say when they're trying to win elections).