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- Performance: I agree it's not there yet. But it's still improving. There is currently major Skia to Impeller migration in progress. It look like Flutter shoul

- Performance: I agree it's not there yet. But it's still improving. There is currently major Skia to Impeller migration in progress. It look like Flutter should be able to reach good performance once it matures. The only long term limiting factor regarding performance is declarative architecture of Futter, which adds a bit of overhead. - UX: Again I agree. It's not there yet. But due to Flutter being based on low level APIs, there is nothing preventing it to mimic any platform's "feel". This is also still being improved. While Flutter will UX probably never 100% match any OS's native UX, as it implements everything on it's own, it could reach the same UX quality. - Web: IMO, Flutter weakest platform. Let's see what WasmGC support brings. I would add fourth problem: Dart. It's not a bad language, but it is years behind with features, performance is currently the same as JS (even though it's statically-typed, AOT compiled language), ecosystem is small and it tries too hard to keep compatibility with JS target (eg. no proper unsigned 64-bit ints). So, currently there are still some moderate issues with Flutter. But its foundations are good. It all depends on Google to keep investing in Flutter.

mort96 3y ago
It doesn’t matter if Flutter reaches the same UX “quality”. What matters is that it will never feel native. I agree with you that this is a fundamental problem which pretty much can’t be fixed.
- zigzag312 3y ago
  Does 100% native feel really matter that much? How often do you encounter situation where you feel your experience is worse because UI/UX isn't same as native, even though the quality of UI/UX is equal to native (not worse in any way, just different)? Sure, consistency and familiarity matter, but IMO it's not like every deviation destroys the experience. If that were the case, UI/UX of iOS should have stayed the same since v1.0.

mort96 3y ago

It doesn’t matter if Flutter reaches the same UX “quality”. What matters is that it will never feel native. I agree with you that this is a fundamental problem which pretty much can’t be fixed.

zigzag312 3y ago
Does 100% native feel really matter that much? How often do you encounter situation where you feel your experience is worse because UI/UX isn't same as native, even though the quality of UI/UX is equal to native (not worse in any way, just different)? Sure, consistency and familiarity matter, but IMO it's not like every deviation destroys the experience. If that were the case, UI/UX of iOS should have stayed the same since v1.0.