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You complain about them feeling entitled to use your computer how they want while trying to justify doing the same thing to them. You are a cheap hypocrite try

You complain about them feeling entitled to use your computer how they want while trying to justify doing the same thing to them. You are a cheap hypocrite trying to build up your actions into some kind of noble cause when the reality is you just want something for free. You want to leech. You call me a paypig but I just believe in supporting the people providing me value because i understand that someone has to or the services go away and people like you exist harming the common.

genocidicbunny 3y ago
As the parent pointed out, there's a simple way for Youtube to deal with me "feeling entitled to use their computer" -- either don't make your computers publicly available via a standard web api, or return the appropriate response via that standard web api, which would be an HTTP error code. When the server returns a 200 and the video to my request of 'video for free please', that is them choosing to accept my request for the video. Just as the common refrain goes that 'if you don't like ads, you can just not use Youtube', the argument that 'if Youtube doesn't like me blocking ads on my computer, they can just not serve me the videos' applies equally.
- sanswork 3y ago
  You are proposing making the internet worse to try and justify your leeching. They give you a way to use there service with out ads and magically you have an excuse not to do that to. You are a drain, if you're happy making the world worse that is on you mate but stop trying to make it into some holy noble cause. You're just being cheap and selfish.
  - genocidicbunny 3y ago
    I appreciate seeing your argument devolve down to just a personal attack instead of actually addressing the points I raised. I feel much more intelligent after this conversation with you.
    - sanswork 3y ago
      You raised no points. You said you don't like ads. It was pointed out you can pay to not see ads and you said that was just as bad(because reasons? You're morally opposed to ad based systems but you aren't opposed enough to stop propping YouTube up with traffic. Your morals stop exactly where they would start to inconvenience you, they are pretend). And that if they really want you to compensate them for taking their resources they should make the internet worse by making it impossible for anyone to choose viewing ads over paying. You're selfish and trying to find a way to justify it that doesn't boil down to selfish and cheap and you won't find it because that is literally your only justification. > I feel much more intelligent after this conversation with you You're welcome. Hopefully you'll feel like being less of a leech too.
      - genocidicbunny 3y ago
        I'm curious, you mention that you run several companies in your profile, are they ad-driven for their revenue?
        sanswork 3y ago
        They are in that paid traffic is essential for them but I don't directly receive income from ads for any of them. At least not in a way that an ad blocker would negatively impact my income.
      - matheusmoreira 3y ago
        We raised plenty of points. You just dismissed them, doubled down and started name calling. Welp.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    > You are proposing making the internet worse We're proposing they stop pretending the service is free when it's not. If they keep giving us free stuff, who are we to refuse?
    - sanswork 3y ago
      They aren't pretending it's free. You are.
      - matheusmoreira 3y ago
        My browser requests a video. They send me a video. Money has not exchanged hands. Free.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
> doing the same thing to them First I'm a leech, now I'm a literal cracker who hacked his way into the trillion dollar monopolist corporation's servers and forced them to serve me videos at their expense. Even mined some Monero on their data centers while I was at it. Are you for real my man? I'm not even gonna read the rest of your comment.
- sanswork 3y ago
  You're trying to make yourself sound cooler than just someone that expects someone else's work for free again. You're not, you are just a leech.
  - matheusmoreira 3y ago
    Sure thing, paypig. Pay them some more, maybe the trillion dollar corporation will finially notice that you exist. When they put ads in the paid service tier.

genocidicbunny 3y ago

As the parent pointed out, there's a simple way for Youtube to deal with me "feeling entitled to use their computer" -- either don't make your computers publicly available via a standard web api, or return the appropriate response via that standard web api, which would be an HTTP error code. When the server returns a 200 and the video to my request of 'video for free please', that is them choosing to accept my request for the video. Just as the common refrain goes that 'if you don't like ads, you can just not use Youtube', the argument that 'if Youtube doesn't like me blocking ads on my computer, they can just not serve me the videos' applies equally.

sanswork 3y ago
You are proposing making the internet worse to try and justify your leeching. They give you a way to use there service with out ads and magically you have an excuse not to do that to. You are a drain, if you're happy making the world worse that is on you mate but stop trying to make it into some holy noble cause. You're just being cheap and selfish.
- genocidicbunny 3y ago
  I appreciate seeing your argument devolve down to just a personal attack instead of actually addressing the points I raised. I feel much more intelligent after this conversation with you.
  - sanswork 3y ago
    You raised no points. You said you don't like ads. It was pointed out you can pay to not see ads and you said that was just as bad(because reasons? You're morally opposed to ad based systems but you aren't opposed enough to stop propping YouTube up with traffic. Your morals stop exactly where they would start to inconvenience you, they are pretend). And that if they really want you to compensate them for taking their resources they should make the internet worse by making it impossible for anyone to choose viewing ads over paying. You're selfish and trying to find a way to justify it that doesn't boil down to selfish and cheap and you won't find it because that is literally your only justification. > I feel much more intelligent after this conversation with you You're welcome. Hopefully you'll feel like being less of a leech too.
    - genocidicbunny 3y ago
      I'm curious, you mention that you run several companies in your profile, are they ad-driven for their revenue?
      - sanswork 3y ago
        They are in that paid traffic is essential for them but I don't directly receive income from ads for any of them. At least not in a way that an ad blocker would negatively impact my income.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      We raised plenty of points. You just dismissed them, doubled down and started name calling. Welp.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  > You are proposing making the internet worse We're proposing they stop pretending the service is free when it's not. If they keep giving us free stuff, who are we to refuse?
  - sanswork 3y ago
    They aren't pretending it's free. You are.
    - matheusmoreira 3y ago
      My browser requests a video. They send me a video. Money has not exchanged hands. Free.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

> doing the same thing to them First I'm a leech, now I'm a literal cracker who hacked his way into the trillion dollar monopolist corporation's servers and forced them to serve me videos at their expense. Even mined some Monero on their data centers while I was at it. Are you for real my man? I'm not even gonna read the rest of your comment.

sanswork 3y ago
You're trying to make yourself sound cooler than just someone that expects someone else's work for free again. You're not, you are just a leech.
- matheusmoreira 3y ago
  Sure thing, paypig. Pay them some more, maybe the trillion dollar corporation will finially notice that you exist. When they put ads in the paid service tier.