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I'm convinced that deterministic AI will never fully replicate human intelligence. I will attempt to explain my reasoning. I can say with absolute certainty th
by a_cardboard_box 3y ago
I'm convinced that deterministic AI will never fully replicate human intelligence. I will attempt to explain my reasoning.
I can say with absolute certainty that I have subjective experience. If my behaviour is deterministic, I can imagine a philosophical zombie version of me that behaves the same but doesn't have subjective experience. That zombie, using the exact same reasoning as me, down to individual particle interactions, will (incorrectly) determine with absolute certainty that it has subjective experience and is not a philosophical zombie. Its reasoning, which is my reasoning, is thus flawed. Therefore, in order to believe my behaviour is deterministic, I must doubt my ability to reason.
(Some claim that philosophical zombies aren't possible to imagine. But I can imagine them, so if that's impossible then my reasoning is still flawed just for a different reason.)
I believe the same argument applies even if I assume my behaviour is non-deterministic but follows a probability distribution which is a function of the past -- the philosophical zombie has the same probability of reasoning that it has subjective experience as I do, and the rest of the argument is similar. Thus, I believe my behaviour is not only non-deterministic, but mathematically ineffable, and thus outside the realm of what computers can do.
If you have subjective experience which works similar to mine, maybe you can follow my reasoning. If you don't, the argument may appear to be nonsense due to the ineffability of subjective experience.
- markisus 3y agoI don’t quite understand your zombie argument but imagine it would be quite easy to inject randomness into an AI agent.
- lossolo 3y agoWe are already doing it, as all LLMs are fully deterministic. So we are adding random seed to prompts and control temperature.
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y agoActually, due to parallel execution they are not running deterministically. Even if the temperature is zero some randomness is left in. You can run a model deterministically, but this is incredibly slow.
- theGnuMe 3y agopsuedo-randomness.
- yoav 3y agoYour “experience” of subjectivity is really just an illusion. Your subconscious mind makes very deterministic decisions milliseconds before your conscious mind is even made aware of it, and it feels like you’re deciding consciously but you’re actually absolutely not based on many studies.
- aoeusnth1 3y agoAnd critically, those deterministic, predictable, mechanical responses still give rise to conscious experience of self (Which for me brings into doubt the possibility of p zombies).
- inimino 3y agoYour argument assumes that p-zombies can exist, which is unproven and I consider highly specious.
- 3cats-in-a-coat 3y agoIt’s also unproven anyone is conscious except me.