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> Ariane 6 At this stage Ariane is just a money-burning program to create jobs that are supported only for political purposes. makes no financial sense at all,
by ekianjo 3y ago
> Ariane 6
At this stage Ariane is just a money-burning program to create jobs that are supported only for political purposes. makes no financial sense at all, it's all obsolete tech.
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- xwolfi 3y agoBut how will Europe be independent of its adversaries like the US, Russia or China without it ? It's like, yeah it's not bleeding edge, but to deploy our military satellites it's better than nothing, isn't it ? Why spit on it, imagine the situation was reversed, you'd be happy NASA had some sort of alternative to China to launch stuff no ?
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago> imagine the situation was reversed I find that the exact same people who place free market above all social concerns, will happily give up quite a lot for national security, but sneer when others do the same.
- ekianjo 3y agoSince when has Europe been independent militarily speaking? Ever heard of NATO?
- xwolfi 3y agoBut you're talking very generally: we are independent militarily: if the US attack us, we can attempt a defense. If Afghanistan could free itself eventually, I'm sure we can find a way as well. My country has nukes (and owns the territory launching Ariane rockets) and NATO can't tell us what to do with them. NATO is not a US-controlled army defending Europe. It's a collaborative alliance to scare a bit anyone trying to invade us, but it's not gonna do us any good if the US decide to become crazy or if one of their critical allies attack us and they don't want to risk it.
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoFrance has a policy of not being 100% dependant on USA when it comes to important matters of state, defence, etc. Notably it allowed them to stay out of folly like the Iraq war.
- ekianjo 3y agoLooks like it did not work too well when it came to Ukraine
- possiblelion 3y agoUkraine is not at all comparable to Iraq.