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YouTube premium is one of the best value purchases I’ve made. If you subscribe to Netflix you’re probably better off canceling that and replacing it with YouTub

YouTube premium is one of the best value purchases I’ve made. If you subscribe to Netflix you’re probably better off canceling that and replacing it with YouTube premium. Also, you can get the family plan for not much more and share with your parents and siblings (or in-laws!)— they will be very appreciative if they watch YouTube and don’t already have premium. It’s not just for skipping ads, it also lets you download videos locally on your phone and the audio continues in the background when you switch to another phone app.

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PartiallyTyped 3y ago
YT premium is one of the few subscriptions I find reasonable tbh. Youtube music, no ads on youtube, my conscience is clean, and I support creators.
- vetinari 3y ago
  > no ads on youtube Really? No ads baked-in into videos by the creators? I.e. those skipped by another add-on, sponsorblock? > and I support creators. Are you sure about that? Why do they need to put their own ads into videos then? By paying Netflix, Amazon Prime, or other streaming service, you surely would: Netflix and Amazon have to pay for the content. But Youtube? They get it for free. > my conscience is clean, But your privacy-awareness should be on alert. For YouTube premium, you have to be logged in. You can bet, that Google profiles you based on what you watch. They just don't show you the ads right on the YouTube, but surely they do elsewhere on their network. Think of it like browser equivalent of the smart tv connected to net.
  - PartiallyTyped 3y ago
    > Really? No ads baked-in into videos by the creators? I.e. those skipped by another add-on, sponsorblock? Sponsorblock, yes. > Are you sure about that? Why do they need to put their own ads into videos then? For the people who use ad-blockers. Not me specifically and youtube doesn't provide a functionality to skip certain parts on paid views. > But your privacy-awareness should be on alert. For YouTube premium, you have to be logged in. You can bet, that Google profiles you based on what you watch. They just don't show you the ads right on the YouTube, but surely they do elsewhere on their network. I use kagi (paid), and ad-blockers for everything else. I can live with google having access to my [poor] music taste and view history.
- jack1243star 3y ago
  > and I support creators YT cut off my favorite channels' monetization all the time. They'll never get a dime out of me.
_the_inflator 3y ago
Same here. No hassle whatsoever. I cannot remember seeing an ad for years now, honestly, I do not get the discussion about blockers when you have everything via Premium. I use YT a lot, more often than Apple Music for example.
cvhashim04 3y ago
Hard to pay for something that most users perceived as *free*
- djur 3y ago
  YouTube has had ads forever. It's never been free.
  - asadotzler 3y ago
    This is disingenuous and inaccurate. YouTube had no ads in 2005 or 2006. Further, YouTube ads in 2007, 2011 and today are not really even in the same category.
prolapso 3y ago
>skip ads >download videos locally on your phone >the audio continues in the background when you switch to another phone app Y... you mean like NewPipe already does?
- kzrdude 3y ago
  There's also a firefox addon (firefox for android) that can help you play youtube video audio in the background.
thallium205 3y ago
YT Premium is the only media subscription needed.
mattrighetti 3y ago
I use YouTube A LOT. I follow a bunch of developers and engineering channels on it and I learn a lot of stuff on YouTube in general. A couple of years ago, after running AdguardHome on my network, I’ve noticed that YouTube ads became more and more aggressive and that was hard to unnotice since I mostly consume YouTube on mobile devices that don’t have adblockers. I just gave up and convinced myself that YouTube, of all the services, is the one that probably deserves my money, so here I am, paying for the student plan which is 6.99€ a month. Now, after almost a year of premium, it’s probably the only plan I could not give up along with Spotify’s. I’m not used to ads anymore, I listen to a lot of stuff in background mode and I love it more than before. Only thing that got on my nerves is that they now decided that if you don’t activate watch history you’re not going to get a Home feed, which is crazy if you ask me.
SeanAnderson 3y ago
How will you feel when YouTube introduces quick ads for premium users and longer ads for free users? There's absolutely nothing stopping the arms race from continuing past the point which you are currently satisified. Just look at Hulu, for example. Also, it's ridiculous that YouTube was able to convince people it's acceptable to have audio pause when in the background. If YouTube on Desktop paused audio when the tab was not the active tab it would be fundamentally unusable.
- lacrimacida 3y ago
  It’s very likely for youtube to turn to paying customers to sqeeze more from them because they’re already willing to pay. Soon there’ll be a premium premium with no ads at a premium cost, $30 a month.
- carlosjobim 3y ago
  How will you feel eating a potato chip tonight, knowing that next year they'll probably make the bag smaller and increase the price? You're not locked into subscribing to YouTube until you die. This is a misunderstanding I see frequently among hackers. They also seem to think that changing the default web browser is equal in severity to building a battleship...
  - SeanAnderson 3y ago
    It doesn't mean I'm going to try and get everyone onboard with shrinkflation though. I'm not telling everyone "aye it's a part of life, accept receiving less so that stocks can trend upward." It's good to have a healthy tension between consumer wants and corporate financials. If everyone stops using ad block today then Google reports one quarter of increased profits. Afterward, investors are normalized to that expectation, the fact everyone is watching ads is meaningless, and Google pursues whatever their next step is for squeezing blood from stone. I want to live in a world where products are as good for me as possible without corporations going under. I do not want to live in a world where products are as poor as I'll tolerate just for profit maximization.
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afavour 3y ago
Not to mention you get YouTube Music too. The app is inferior to Spotify but it’s good enough and let me get rid of another subscription.
thesagan 3y ago
When prices kept rising on cigarettes it was easier to quit them for good. It's been many years now. I was and still am thankful for that pricing regime. Lately I find I waste a lot of time "relaxing" on YouTube, but I've noticed it's become TV for me; a habit like smoking was. Sure, there's thought-provoking stuff on there, but that's not what seems to show up in my feed. It looks like cable TV. I suppose I have terrible viewing preferences. This is just my experience, of course. So, I'm ready to kick the YouTube habit and to do more "pulling" of information. Having experienced what cable TV did (eventually throwing a huge amount ads into an expensive subscription) the new fee structure makes kicking the habit an easier, healthier, and more prudent choice. I think I know where they're heading. I'm thankful for it, frankly. It's wind at my back to pull away from too much screen time. It'll be much easier to break the habit. I've paid enough by providing my viewing preferences anyhow. And when already-profitable monopolistic non-essential services start squeezing tighter, it's surprisingly refreshing to search for new pastures. If/when Reddit kills "old" reddit, that'll be good too.
scohesc 3y ago
Absolutely infuriating that Youtube used to have background play as a feature for free and then decided to hide it away behind a paywall because they had to monetize it somehow. They also decided to get rid of Google Play Music, one of the best music streaming platforms ever created, and replace it with Youtube Music - which is absolutely god-awful. I want to play music, not watch music videos, not be limited to what's on Youtube and upload my own music to stream... Purely for removing background play alone, they don't deserve 15 dollars a month (or whatever they're charging right now)
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globular-toast 3y ago
I don't subscribe to netflix, though. I'm not a compulsive viewer. I just look up the occasional thing. It's not worth it to me, but I still don't want ads.

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PartiallyTyped 3y ago

YT premium is one of the few subscriptions I find reasonable tbh. Youtube music, no ads on youtube, my conscience is clean, and I support creators.

vetinari 3y ago
> no ads on youtube Really? No ads baked-in into videos by the creators? I.e. those skipped by another add-on, sponsorblock? > and I support creators. Are you sure about that? Why do they need to put their own ads into videos then? By paying Netflix, Amazon Prime, or other streaming service, you surely would: Netflix and Amazon have to pay for the content. But Youtube? They get it for free. > my conscience is clean, But your privacy-awareness should be on alert. For YouTube premium, you have to be logged in. You can bet, that Google profiles you based on what you watch. They just don't show you the ads right on the YouTube, but surely they do elsewhere on their network. Think of it like browser equivalent of the smart tv connected to net.
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  > Really? No ads baked-in into videos by the creators? I.e. those skipped by another add-on, sponsorblock? Sponsorblock, yes. > Are you sure about that? Why do they need to put their own ads into videos then? For the people who use ad-blockers. Not me specifically and youtube doesn't provide a functionality to skip certain parts on paid views. > But your privacy-awareness should be on alert. For YouTube premium, you have to be logged in. You can bet, that Google profiles you based on what you watch. They just don't show you the ads right on the YouTube, but surely they do elsewhere on their network. I use kagi (paid), and ad-blockers for everything else. I can live with google having access to my [poor] music taste and view history.
jack1243star 3y ago
> and I support creators YT cut off my favorite channels' monetization all the time. They'll never get a dime out of me.

_the_inflator 3y ago

Same here. No hassle whatsoever. I cannot remember seeing an ad for years now, honestly, I do not get the discussion about blockers when you have everything via Premium. I use YT a lot, more often than Apple Music for example.

cvhashim04 3y ago

Hard to pay for something that most users perceived as *free*

djur 3y ago
YouTube has had ads forever. It's never been free.
- asadotzler 3y ago
  This is disingenuous and inaccurate. YouTube had no ads in 2005 or 2006. Further, YouTube ads in 2007, 2011 and today are not really even in the same category.

prolapso 3y ago

>skip ads >download videos locally on your phone >the audio continues in the background when you switch to another phone app Y... you mean like NewPipe already does?

kzrdude 3y ago
There's also a firefox addon (firefox for android) that can help you play youtube video audio in the background.

thallium205 3y ago

YT Premium is the only media subscription needed.

mattrighetti 3y ago

I use YouTube A LOT. I follow a bunch of developers and engineering channels on it and I learn a lot of stuff on YouTube in general. A couple of years ago, after running AdguardHome on my network, I’ve noticed that YouTube ads became more and more aggressive and that was hard to unnotice since I mostly consume YouTube on mobile devices that don’t have adblockers. I just gave up and convinced myself that YouTube, of all the services, is the one that probably deserves my money, so here I am, paying for the student plan which is 6.99€ a month. Now, after almost a year of premium, it’s probably the only plan I could not give up along with Spotify’s. I’m not used to ads anymore, I listen to a lot of stuff in background mode and I love it more than before. Only thing that got on my nerves is that they now decided that if you don’t activate watch history you’re not going to get a Home feed, which is crazy if you ask me.

SeanAnderson 3y ago

How will you feel when YouTube introduces quick ads for premium users and longer ads for free users? There's absolutely nothing stopping the arms race from continuing past the point which you are currently satisified. Just look at Hulu, for example. Also, it's ridiculous that YouTube was able to convince people it's acceptable to have audio pause when in the background. If YouTube on Desktop paused audio when the tab was not the active tab it would be fundamentally unusable.

lacrimacida 3y ago
It’s very likely for youtube to turn to paying customers to sqeeze more from them because they’re already willing to pay. Soon there’ll be a premium premium with no ads at a premium cost, $30 a month.
carlosjobim 3y ago
How will you feel eating a potato chip tonight, knowing that next year they'll probably make the bag smaller and increase the price? You're not locked into subscribing to YouTube until you die. This is a misunderstanding I see frequently among hackers. They also seem to think that changing the default web browser is equal in severity to building a battleship...
- SeanAnderson 3y ago
  It doesn't mean I'm going to try and get everyone onboard with shrinkflation though. I'm not telling everyone "aye it's a part of life, accept receiving less so that stocks can trend upward." It's good to have a healthy tension between consumer wants and corporate financials. If everyone stops using ad block today then Google reports one quarter of increased profits. Afterward, investors are normalized to that expectation, the fact everyone is watching ads is meaningless, and Google pursues whatever their next step is for squeezing blood from stone. I want to live in a world where products are as good for me as possible without corporations going under. I do not want to live in a world where products are as poor as I'll tolerate just for profit maximization.
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afavour 3y ago

Not to mention you get YouTube Music too. The app is inferior to Spotify but it’s good enough and let me get rid of another subscription.

thesagan 3y ago

When prices kept rising on cigarettes it was easier to quit them for good. It's been many years now. I was and still am thankful for that pricing regime. Lately I find I waste a lot of time "relaxing" on YouTube, but I've noticed it's become TV for me; a habit like smoking was. Sure, there's thought-provoking stuff on there, but that's not what seems to show up in my feed. It looks like cable TV. I suppose I have terrible viewing preferences. This is just my experience, of course. So, I'm ready to kick the YouTube habit and to do more "pulling" of information. Having experienced what cable TV did (eventually throwing a huge amount ads into an expensive subscription) the new fee structure makes kicking the habit an easier, healthier, and more prudent choice. I think I know where they're heading. I'm thankful for it, frankly. It's wind at my back to pull away from too much screen time. It'll be much easier to break the habit. I've paid enough by providing my viewing preferences anyhow. And when already-profitable monopolistic non-essential services start squeezing tighter, it's surprisingly refreshing to search for new pastures. If/when Reddit kills "old" reddit, that'll be good too.

scohesc 3y ago

Absolutely infuriating that Youtube used to have background play as a feature for free and then decided to hide it away behind a paywall because they had to monetize it somehow. They also decided to get rid of Google Play Music, one of the best music streaming platforms ever created, and replace it with Youtube Music - which is absolutely god-awful. I want to play music, not watch music videos, not be limited to what's on Youtube and upload my own music to stream... Purely for removing background play alone, they don't deserve 15 dollars a month (or whatever they're charging right now)

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globular-toast 3y ago

I don't subscribe to netflix, though. I'm not a compulsive viewer. I just look up the occasional thing. It's not worth it to me, but I still don't want ads.