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Does YouTube work without JS? This might be one way to avoid ads as well as a network wide Pi Hole. I hate it when YouTube / Google needs to exploit everyone's

Does YouTube work without JS? This might be one way to avoid ads as well as a network wide Pi Hole. I hate it when YouTube / Google needs to exploit everyone's data and privacy in order to make money.

rollcat 3y ago
Does anything at all run without JS these days? I swear all I wanted was to read a blog post, and it loaded more megabytes of JS than the text and pictures combined.
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- DoingIsLearning 3y ago
  One example that comes to mind is Kagi. They makes it a design point that Kagi should work even without javascript enabled.
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- jamesfinlayson 3y ago
  I thought Twitter had a no Javascript version but apparently that stopped a couple of years ago.
- globular-toast 3y ago
  I ran Noscript about 10 years ago. At first I didn't notice any difference. Then, over a period of only a year or so, things started to break. I would notice that my friends' web experience seemed remarkably different to mine. Eventually I capitulated and enabled JS again. Seeing it all happen at one rather than at a trickle over time was quite shocking. I still design web sites without JS first. In fact, I design them without even CSS. It's called progressive enhancement. Many of them have only a sprinkling of convenient but not necessary JS.
recursive 3y ago
Not even close.
lagrange77 3y ago
> Pi Hole They serve the ads from the same domain, as the site itself.
- colesantiago 3y ago
  Surely it's possible to block the paths to the ad on the site itself.
  - mirashii 3y ago
    Not with DNS blocking, which is what the pihole is
  - kuroguro 3y ago
    Pi Hole just blocks on DNS level, I believe.
  - Salgat 3y ago
    The problem is that it will refuse to play content if it can't play the ad.
  - tiagod 3y ago
    Pihole is only intercepting DNS resolve requests. Those only resolve the domain itself. If they don't use a different domain to serve ads, then it can't be blocked that way.
- potatopatch 3y ago
  Good thing the whole site is a bug, though I rarely end up on YT by accident since videos are marked in web etiquette. For twitter.com a filter option here on HN would be nice but a domain blocker might do.

rollcat 3y ago

Does anything at all run without JS these days? I swear all I wanted was to read a blog post, and it loaded more megabytes of JS than the text and pictures combined.

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DoingIsLearning 3y ago
One example that comes to mind is Kagi. They makes it a design point that Kagi should work even without javascript enabled.
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jamesfinlayson 3y ago
I thought Twitter had a no Javascript version but apparently that stopped a couple of years ago.
globular-toast 3y ago
I ran Noscript about 10 years ago. At first I didn't notice any difference. Then, over a period of only a year or so, things started to break. I would notice that my friends' web experience seemed remarkably different to mine. Eventually I capitulated and enabled JS again. Seeing it all happen at one rather than at a trickle over time was quite shocking. I still design web sites without JS first. In fact, I design them without even CSS. It's called progressive enhancement. Many of them have only a sprinkling of convenient but not necessary JS.

recursive 3y ago

Not even close.

lagrange77 3y ago

> Pi Hole They serve the ads from the same domain, as the site itself.

colesantiago 3y ago
Surely it's possible to block the paths to the ad on the site itself.
- mirashii 3y ago
  Not with DNS blocking, which is what the pihole is
- kuroguro 3y ago
  Pi Hole just blocks on DNS level, I believe.
- Salgat 3y ago
  The problem is that it will refuse to play content if it can't play the ad.
- tiagod 3y ago
  Pihole is only intercepting DNS resolve requests. Those only resolve the domain itself. If they don't use a different domain to serve ads, then it can't be blocked that way.
potatopatch 3y ago
Good thing the whole site is a bug, though I rarely end up on YT by accident since videos are marked in web etiquette. For twitter.com a filter option here on HN would be nice but a domain blocker might do.