> the issue seems to be that there are a lot of people who feel otherwise, whether right or wrong, including some of the people involved in the research and/or

> the issue seems to be that there are a lot of people who feel otherwise, whether right or wrong, including some of the people involved in the research and/or running these companies. I think the problem here is this view isn't widely held in academia and more traditional AI companies, but the relatively few AGI labs are commanding all of the attention right now. And we have a whole new crop of "AI engineers" who haven't actually studied AI (this isn't a dig, it's just the truth), and so mostly just parrot what the AGI labs say. It's like going to a flat earth conference and becoming convinced because the majority of the attendees believe that the earth is flat. Of course, this doesn't mean that the AGI labs are incorrect, but thus far the evidence mostly seems to be "trust us, scale will work". I wish that more technologists realized that the prevailing opinion amongst AI experts is not necessarily aligned with the prevailing opinion amongst AGI folks.