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New Dells are using fixed storage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPBk9sIK-PQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPBk9sIK-PQ Most (all?) Chromebooks use eMMC sto

by mike_d 3y ago

New Dells are using fixed storage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPBk9sIK-PQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPBk9sIK-PQ Most (all?) Chromebooks use eMMC storage attached to the board. Even laptops with M.2 connectors still require a hundred screws, guitar picks, heat guns, and other insane things to "replace" storage.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>New Dells are using fixed storage Meh, that's just one model out of dozens form one of a dozen manufacturers. Hardly conclusive to validate the "a lot of laptops" claim. I'm sure someone else in the comments will point out some other obscure laptop from Acer or Lenovo that's thinner than a razor blade and has soldered storage. Fine, but still not "a lot of laptops". Just don't buy those 3 models in the world that solder their storage and you'll be fine. >Most (all?) Chromebooks use eMMC storage attached to the board. Thanks but Chromebooks are just ChromeOS devices akin to your tablet or phone, not actual laptops, nor do I buy garbage laptops with eMMC, nor would I know where to find one even if I did want to buy a laptop with eMMC since I haven't seen one for sale since the Asus EEPC from 2011, so no issue there. >Even laptops with M.2 connectors still require a hundred screws, guitar picks, heat guns, and other insane things to "replace" storage. That's a gross overexaggeration. I fiddled with the innards of several models of laptops from several brands and all of them are easy to replace the M.2 SSDs without special fancy tools and pain, just a screwdriver. Only Microsoft glues their machine together but nobody buys them anyway so don't you do it either and you'll be fine. Conclusion: Myth busted. Most laptops on the market DON'T have soldered storage, and they're also quite easy to replace. Keep calm and carry on.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  > nor would I know where to find one Surface Go is available in eMMC version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpkT8JwgnAI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpkT8JwgnAI https://www.amazon.com/s?k=laptop+emmc https://www.amazon.com/s?k=laptop+emmc Basically anything under $700 has a chance to be an eMMC laptop. Most? Nope. Many? Yes, especially cheap and not so cheap ones.
  - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
    >Surface Go is available in eMMC version. Yes I'm sure all the three Surface Go owners in the world will be devastated. >Basically anything under $700 has a chance to be an eMMC laptop. You must be joking. Maybe like sub 300 USD. I have a 700 Euro Laptop and it came with a 1TB NVME and most cheap sub 500 Euros laptops I find are all still with SSDs not eMMC. SSDs are now so cheap you'll find them everywhere instead of eMMCs. You really need to go out of your way and scrape the bottom of the barrel to find them today in new products.
    - justsomehnguy 3y ago
      > Yes I'm sure all the three Surface Go Thankfully for Microsoft you and your hate are not the ones who buys Surface Go > You must be joking. Maybe like sub 300 USD Did you even bothered to check that Amazon link? With laptops at $500 clearly labeled having an eMMC storage? You must be joking. > SSDs are now so cheap And eMMC is cheaper. If it wasn't there would be no laptops with eMMC.
      - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
        Just because you managed to hunt down some junky Emmc laptops by actively searching for them on Amazon doesn't mean anything. How much percentage wise are they of total sales of laptops? How many consumers actually buy them? Those are important numbers, the statistics. Not your Amazon findings trying to spin it into an overexageration. Emmc laptops are by no means a majority in consumers hands.
        justsomehnguy 3y ago
        > you managed > to hunt down some junky Emmc laptops > by actively searching for them on Amazon doesn't mean anything. No, I didn't 'hunt down', 'actively searched' or whatever. I just typed it in. Also it means what you are didn't bothered to visit that link and you are in denial, because it doesn't suit your views. > How many consumers actually buy them? Ah, yes, let me call MS/ASUS/whoever president and tell him to handover the stats, because noname from the Internet demands them or 'didn't happen' >trying to spin it into an overexageration Ah, yes, multiple models with eMMC sold everywhere is just an overexageration, it's like a special plot from vendors to... what for, actually? How come there are models on the market with eMMC when nobody buys eMMC laptops? Can you explain that without overexagerating your snobism? > Emmc laptops are by no means a majority in consumers hands. Yes, and this is addressed in my first comment in this thread.

by mike_d 3y ago

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>New Dells are using fixed storage Meh, that's just one model out of dozens form one of a dozen manufacturers. Hardly conclusive to validate the "a lot of laptops" claim. I'm sure someone else in the comments will point out some other obscure laptop from Acer or Lenovo that's thinner than a razor blade and has soldered storage. Fine, but still not "a lot of laptops". Just don't buy those 3 models in the world that solder their storage and you'll be fine. >Most (all?) Chromebooks use eMMC storage attached to the board. Thanks but Chromebooks are just ChromeOS devices akin to your tablet or phone, not actual laptops, nor do I buy garbage laptops with eMMC, nor would I know where to find one even if I did want to buy a laptop with eMMC since I haven't seen one for sale since the Asus EEPC from 2011, so no issue there. >Even laptops with M.2 connectors still require a hundred screws, guitar picks, heat guns, and other insane things to "replace" storage. That's a gross overexaggeration. I fiddled with the innards of several models of laptops from several brands and all of them are easy to replace the M.2 SSDs without special fancy tools and pain, just a screwdriver. Only Microsoft glues their machine together but nobody buys them anyway so don't you do it either and you'll be fine. Conclusion: Myth busted. Most laptops on the market DON'T have soldered storage, and they're also quite easy to replace. Keep calm and carry on.

justsomehnguy 3y ago
> nor would I know where to find one Surface Go is available in eMMC version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpkT8JwgnAI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpkT8JwgnAI https://www.amazon.com/s?k=laptop+emmc https://www.amazon.com/s?k=laptop+emmc Basically anything under $700 has a chance to be an eMMC laptop. Most? Nope. Many? Yes, especially cheap and not so cheap ones.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >Surface Go is available in eMMC version. Yes I'm sure all the three Surface Go owners in the world will be devastated. >Basically anything under $700 has a chance to be an eMMC laptop. You must be joking. Maybe like sub 300 USD. I have a 700 Euro Laptop and it came with a 1TB NVME and most cheap sub 500 Euros laptops I find are all still with SSDs not eMMC. SSDs are now so cheap you'll find them everywhere instead of eMMCs. You really need to go out of your way and scrape the bottom of the barrel to find them today in new products.
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    > Yes I'm sure all the three Surface Go Thankfully for Microsoft you and your hate are not the ones who buys Surface Go > You must be joking. Maybe like sub 300 USD Did you even bothered to check that Amazon link? With laptops at $500 clearly labeled having an eMMC storage? You must be joking. > SSDs are now so cheap And eMMC is cheaper. If it wasn't there would be no laptops with eMMC.
    - FirmwareBurner 3y ago
      Just because you managed to hunt down some junky Emmc laptops by actively searching for them on Amazon doesn't mean anything. How much percentage wise are they of total sales of laptops? How many consumers actually buy them? Those are important numbers, the statistics. Not your Amazon findings trying to spin it into an overexageration. Emmc laptops are by no means a majority in consumers hands.
      - justsomehnguy 3y ago
        > you managed > to hunt down some junky Emmc laptops > by actively searching for them on Amazon doesn't mean anything. No, I didn't 'hunt down', 'actively searched' or whatever. I just typed it in. Also it means what you are didn't bothered to visit that link and you are in denial, because it doesn't suit your views. > How many consumers actually buy them? Ah, yes, let me call MS/ASUS/whoever president and tell him to handover the stats, because noname from the Internet demands them or 'didn't happen' >trying to spin it into an overexageration Ah, yes, multiple models with eMMC sold everywhere is just an overexageration, it's like a special plot from vendors to... what for, actually? How come there are models on the market with eMMC when nobody buys eMMC laptops? Can you explain that without overexagerating your snobism? > Emmc laptops are by no means a majority in consumers hands. Yes, and this is addressed in my first comment in this thread.