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Does shaming people about their sexual hygiene increase openness and willingness to get tested? Or does it encourage people to hide from the problem, exacerbat

Does shaming people about their sexual hygiene increase openness and willingness to get tested? Or does it encourage people to hide from the problem, exacerbating it? I know weight shaming is in this category, tends to make people gain rather than lose. Do you know if this actually works? Is this definitely positive behaviour, or does it just feel like it?

olliej 3y ago
I'm not critiquing their personal hygiene, I'm critiquing their refusal to take basic steps to protect their partners. If you want to sleep with different people on a regular or semi-regular basis, you should be getting STI checks, and you should be practicing safe sex. That is a basic element of being a decent person. What you're saying is that I am shaming someone for bad driving when I tell them they should stop at red lights. After they've repeatedly run red lights. If you are having sex with other people, you have a duty to them to ensure that you aren't transmitting a variety of different diseases and illnesses, at least not without consent. Many STIs are easily and quickly, detected and treated, but many others are permanent and carry life long risks, and if you are too lazy or "embarrassed" to get tested, then you have no business sleeping with other people.
- chownie 3y ago
  I think you've misunderstood, I didn't make any claims. My only question was if shaming people is effective, and we seem to have sidestepped that.
  - olliej 3y ago
    you literally replied with "Does shaming people about their sexual hygiene ..." I did not mention their hygiene, sexual or otherwise. If you 1. Have multiple sexual partners 2. Don't get regular STI tests you are in the wrong. I am not shaming hygiene, shaming STIs, shaming the number (high or low, I literally do not care what consensual adults are doing with or without clothes), shaming the frequency (again, don't care). I am saying that the basic social contract of sleeping with someone is that you are open and honest about your sexual health, and in the absence of explicitly saying you have an STI the reasonable assumption your partners are making is that you have a reasonable belief you are not carrying anything transmissible. To be able to do that you need to have regular STI checks. You're right that shaming someone for having an STI is not helpful, especially given a number of STIs aren't curable, but not getting tested is a _choice_, and shaming people at risk of STIs for not getting tested is no different from shaming people for drunk driving. You are making a bad choice and expecting no consequences.
    - bhpm 3y ago
      > but not getting tested is a _choice_, Why do you think people choose not to get tested?
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olliej 3y ago

I'm not critiquing their personal hygiene, I'm critiquing their refusal to take basic steps to protect their partners. If you want to sleep with different people on a regular or semi-regular basis, you should be getting STI checks, and you should be practicing safe sex. That is a basic element of being a decent person. What you're saying is that I am shaming someone for bad driving when I tell them they should stop at red lights. After they've repeatedly run red lights. If you are having sex with other people, you have a duty to them to ensure that you aren't transmitting a variety of different diseases and illnesses, at least not without consent. Many STIs are easily and quickly, detected and treated, but many others are permanent and carry life long risks, and if you are too lazy or "embarrassed" to get tested, then you have no business sleeping with other people.

chownie 3y ago
I think you've misunderstood, I didn't make any claims. My only question was if shaming people is effective, and we seem to have sidestepped that.
- olliej 3y ago
  you literally replied with "Does shaming people about their sexual hygiene ..." I did not mention their hygiene, sexual or otherwise. If you 1. Have multiple sexual partners 2. Don't get regular STI tests you are in the wrong. I am not shaming hygiene, shaming STIs, shaming the number (high or low, I literally do not care what consensual adults are doing with or without clothes), shaming the frequency (again, don't care). I am saying that the basic social contract of sleeping with someone is that you are open and honest about your sexual health, and in the absence of explicitly saying you have an STI the reasonable assumption your partners are making is that you have a reasonable belief you are not carrying anything transmissible. To be able to do that you need to have regular STI checks. You're right that shaming someone for having an STI is not helpful, especially given a number of STIs aren't curable, but not getting tested is a _choice_, and shaming people at risk of STIs for not getting tested is no different from shaming people for drunk driving. You are making a bad choice and expecting no consequences.
  - bhpm 3y ago
    > but not getting tested is a _choice_, Why do you think people choose not to get tested?
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