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This reminds me of one of my favorite articles: https://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2013/06/09/using-metadata-to-find-paul-revere/ https://kieranhealy.org/blo

This reminds me of one of my favorite articles: https://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2013/06/09/using-metadata-to-find-paul-revere/ https://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2013/06/09/using-metad... This is a great article to share with friends who don't understand how dangerous this is.

b112 3y ago
I wonder. After all, this is a demonstration on how the British could have identified, and stopped key players in a rebellion, yes? And you think people will be upset about the concept? This is a poor example to use. edit: I see lots of downvoting, but people... be realistic. The average person will only see that a rebellion could be stopped. This isn't an example which explains negative outcomes to them well. People will give up all due to fear. Hell, people will give up all privacy to Google for beads and trinkets! And this example shows a government being able to thrwart an actual, violent rebellion! The average Sally and Joe will think "great"!
- JadeNB 3y ago
  > edit: I see lots of downvoting, but people... be realistic. The average person will only see that a rebellion could be stopped. This isn't an example which explains negative outcomes to them well. I think you underestimate the American investment in our founding myths/stories. This is probably a bad example to convince an English person, but I imagine it would have considerable visceral appeal to an American.
thangalin 3y ago
https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/06/06/web-of-knowledge/ https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/06/06/web-of-knowledge/ "Metadata is information about information. A library’s card catalogue is an example of metadata: it contains details about the library’s books, which themselves are treasure troves of information. Metadata about a phone call can include: who called whom, what date and time the call was placed, each party’s location, and the call’s duration. ... "Had such metadata been available to the Third Reich, it is easy to imagine that Kelly would have been flagged by encoding 3 (homosexual) on a punched card, arrested, and his death recorded by encoding 4 (execution), having been found guilty by association. There are other explanations for Kelly’s actions that, knowing the conversations’ contents, would lead to completely different interpretations."
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PawgerZ 3y ago
Someone should rewrite this as the Romans hunting Jesus with metadata -- could maybe get some evangelicals on our side.

b112 3y ago

I wonder. After all, this is a demonstration on how the British could have identified, and stopped key players in a rebellion, yes? And you think people will be upset about the concept? This is a poor example to use. edit: I see lots of downvoting, but people... be realistic. The average person will only see that a rebellion could be stopped. This isn't an example which explains negative outcomes to them well. People will give up all due to fear. Hell, people will give up all privacy to Google for beads and trinkets! And this example shows a government being able to thrwart an actual, violent rebellion! The average Sally and Joe will think "great"!

JadeNB 3y ago
> edit: I see lots of downvoting, but people... be realistic. The average person will only see that a rebellion could be stopped. This isn't an example which explains negative outcomes to them well. I think you underestimate the American investment in our founding myths/stories. This is probably a bad example to convince an English person, but I imagine it would have considerable visceral appeal to an American.

thangalin 3y ago

https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/06/06/web-of-knowledge/ https://dave.autonoma.ca/blog/2019/06/06/web-of-knowledge/ "Metadata is information about information. A library’s card catalogue is an example of metadata: it contains details about the library’s books, which themselves are treasure troves of information. Metadata about a phone call can include: who called whom, what date and time the call was placed, each party’s location, and the call’s duration. ... "Had such metadata been available to the Third Reich, it is easy to imagine that Kelly would have been flagged by encoding 3 (homosexual) on a punched card, arrested, and his death recorded by encoding 4 (execution), having been found guilty by association. There are other explanations for Kelly’s actions that, knowing the conversations’ contents, would lead to completely different interpretations."

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PawgerZ 3y ago

Someone should rewrite this as the Romans hunting Jesus with metadata -- could maybe get some evangelicals on our side.