Very insightful, cannot disagree! Some commentary... > A big problem is how you'd actually implement all this without having society blow up over this mysteri

Very insightful, cannot disagree! Some commentary... > A big problem is how you'd actually implement all this without having society blow up over this mysterious spectre of 'faltering economy' that is going to happen when the economic activity associated with bullshit consumption goes away (20 hour workweek anyone?). See also: countries switching which side of the road they drive on (with lots more variables). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-_and_right-hand_traffic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-_and_right-hand_traffic > Plus we're not really aligned on this issue. Perhaps for reasons similar to why the dishes from breakfast are still sitting dirty in my sink rather than clean in the cupboard. > I'd wager there's a significant chunk that just doesn't care and thinks it's a lame sideshow as long as it doesn't affect them until they die. I'd say it's because they have no idea what they're talking about (nature-blindness again, and forget about the rest). Even this may be optimistic, as it is. >>>> The systems we use for coordinating our actions and beliefs aren't sufficiently sophisticated....and we are too indoctrinated to realize it. >>> The (information) systems are actually incredibly sophisticated, but they are aligned with extraction not preservation. >>> It "just" takes a sufficient pivot in will, a couple decades and this shit's solved. >> Do we have any that can reliably detect and surface the errors/flaws in your comment though, in a productive/positive manner? ;) > Oh and what my last sentence meant: I claim if we could get to a state where we mount a giant concerted action by a sufficient number of decision makers that realign our collective activity towards preservation, we could harness the knowledge and technology we have now to execute successfully on that vision. This seems like a substantially (to a materially important degree) but different (improved) meaning - and yes, I am being "pedantic" (and evasive). Flaws remain though - is further refinement possible? > It's a big claim and a messy (but not implausible to solve) problem, the incalculability of which I encoded in the apostrophes around just ;) Similar to the pile of dishes in my sink....I should "just" go wash them! Nah, maybe later.