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I'm glad someone archived this. I had a feeling this was going to happen when I saw how new the posts were.

progbits 3y ago
I have a habit of making sure potentially controversial articles are on archive.org whenever I come across them, just for this exact reason. (It's on my to-do list to automatically mirror all HN submissions as well)
- theolivenbaum 3y ago
  Is there an API for that? I could only find one to check if a page is available (https://archive.org/help/wayback_api.php https://archive.org/help/wayback_api.php)
  - theolivenbaum 3y ago
    Nevermind, found it: https://foxrow.com/til-api-for-saving-webpages-in-the-wayback-machine https://foxrow.com/til-api-for-saving-webpages-in-the-waybac... I'll add this to our hn.curiosity.ai server asap, should be pretty easy to automate as we already have post sync implemented there
    - jeffrallen 3y ago
      If you do that, can you also throw $1000 a year to the Archive so they can buy a few hard drives for the stuff you are asking them to store? Thanks!
      - avipars 3y ago
        Do they store on film or spinning rust?
        jeffrallen 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18117298 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18117298
- mschuster91 3y ago
  > It's on my to-do list to automatically mirror all HN submissions as well I recently emailed that suggestion to dang as well - both Web Archive and Archive Today (aka archive.is/ws/ph/wh/whatever), as the former is more likely to stick around and the latter is better than 12ft at bypassing paywalls. It's on their to-do list as well.
  - progbits 3y ago
    I'm a huge side project procrastinator, but if this comes after HN performance improvements on dang's to-do list I feel like I might beat them to it ;)
- miki123211 3y ago
  Keep in mind that the website author has the ability to delete content from archive.org (and I've seen a pretty significant website for a community I'm a part of do so when it shut down, ostensibly for "GDPR compliance" reasons.) All it takes is a robot.txt file with the right entries in it. We need something like archive.org, but which reflects the wishes of historians and preservationists, not paranoid website owners.
  - zztop44 3y ago
    Do we need that? I feel like the right to be forgotten needs to be protected too. I’m already uncomfortable with the extent to which everything I write can live forever
    - somenameforme 3y ago
      Which is why your alias is wisely zztop44 and not JamesWilliamsPattersonChicago84.
    - account42 3y ago
      The right to be forgotten is a very recent invention and very much not universally agreed upon.
- Tohhou 3y ago
  archive.org will bend to censors very easily unfortunately.

I have a habit of making sure potentially controversial articles are on archive.org whenever I come across them, just for this exact reason. (It's on my to-do list to automatically mirror all HN submissions as well)

theolivenbaum 3y ago
Is there an API for that? I could only find one to check if a page is available (https://archive.org/help/wayback_api.php https://archive.org/help/wayback_api.php)
- theolivenbaum 3y ago
  Nevermind, found it: https://foxrow.com/til-api-for-saving-webpages-in-the-wayback-machine https://foxrow.com/til-api-for-saving-webpages-in-the-waybac... I'll add this to our hn.curiosity.ai server asap, should be pretty easy to automate as we already have post sync implemented there
  - jeffrallen 3y ago
    If you do that, can you also throw $1000 a year to the Archive so they can buy a few hard drives for the stuff you are asking them to store? Thanks!
    - avipars 3y ago
      Do they store on film or spinning rust?
      - jeffrallen 3y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18117298 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18117298
mschuster91 3y ago
> It's on my to-do list to automatically mirror all HN submissions as well I recently emailed that suggestion to dang as well - both Web Archive and Archive Today (aka archive.is/ws/ph/wh/whatever), as the former is more likely to stick around and the latter is better than 12ft at bypassing paywalls. It's on their to-do list as well.
- progbits 3y ago
  I'm a huge side project procrastinator, but if this comes after HN performance improvements on dang's to-do list I feel like I might beat them to it ;)
miki123211 3y ago
Keep in mind that the website author has the ability to delete content from archive.org (and I've seen a pretty significant website for a community I'm a part of do so when it shut down, ostensibly for "GDPR compliance" reasons.) All it takes is a robot.txt file with the right entries in it. We need something like archive.org, but which reflects the wishes of historians and preservationists, not paranoid website owners.
- zztop44 3y ago
  Do we need that? I feel like the right to be forgotten needs to be protected too. I’m already uncomfortable with the extent to which everything I write can live forever
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    Which is why your alias is wisely zztop44 and not JamesWilliamsPattersonChicago84.
  - account42 3y ago
    The right to be forgotten is a very recent invention and very much not universally agreed upon.
Tohhou 3y ago
archive.org will bend to censors very easily unfortunately.