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It feels like the stakes are kind of different when a LLM could give you the recipe and accurate instructions for creating, say, chemical weapons.
by king_magic 3y ago
It feels like the stakes are kind of different when a LLM could give you the recipe and accurate instructions for creating, say, chemical weapons.
- kylebenzle 3y agoLLMs only know what they have been trained on. So in what cases should the data used to train the LLM, that is generally freely available not be available through another format. Your complaint is a perfect example of how these "safety" issues are simply not logical and seems to assume that an LLM and generate new information, not just repeat what its been trained on.
- apantel 3y agoWhat I’ve learned from a lot of productive coding with ChatGPT as a soundboard and generator is that you need to review everything it generates in order to catch little issues as well as ways things could be done better. Only an extremely competent chemist could try suggestions from an LLM without blowing themselves up or melting a hole in the floor. In other words, only someone already capable of designing chemical weapons could be helped by an LLM in the design of chemical weapons.
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- ndriscoll 3y agoPeople need to know how to create chemical weapons at home so that they don't do it on accident using common cleaning supplies. That e.g. bleach and vinegar create deadly gas when mixed is extremely important for every adult to know.
- _factor 3y agoRight, so stop teaching chemistry in schools. Make sure there are only 3 experts allowed to work on the field, and lock their knowledge away from humanity. That will solve it. While you're at it, take away all the guns and any computers that can be used to hack. God forbid dangerous knowledge ever becomes available again. Almost forgot, people really shouldn't learn how to drive cars either. Very very dangerous. Practical solution. Fingerprint the conversations and images. Do something naughty, go to jail.
- TapWaterBandit 3y agoLet's not forget how many crimes are committed with vehicles. Not just the terror attack style seen in recent years, get away cars for various crimes, scooter drug dealers, boats used to smuggle all sorts of stuff. Far too dangerous got the public to be able to use.
- mcphage 3y agoWell, you do need to get licensed to be a driver, and register your vehicle with the government, and you get fined—or worse—if you don’t operate it properly and safely. So is what you’re asking for? That level of security around AI usage?
- ultrarunner 3y agoLet's be honest, though: these are mostly just a grift. People kill other people in vehicles every single day. It's almost always referred to as an "accident", given nearly zero investigation, and there are zero consequences. The licensing & registration is mostly about paying a fee in many areas (and being taxed on the same thing over and over) and the last fee I paid for not "operating it properly" was along with 5 other people with out-of-state plates in a shakedown where the traffic light wouldn't change. Arguing that these things are primarily in the interest of safety is tenuous at best. A fitting parallel for the levels of risk that chatbots present.
- mcphage 3y agoIs there grift involved? Sure. Would we be better off or safer without the regulations? Hell no.
- voitvoder 3y agoThere is a much easier solution to all of this. Children should stop learning to read. The safest way to handle large language models is simply to have a more illiterate society. It is disgusting people would talk about destroying data centers when we have such safer options like this.
- Turing_Machine 3y ago> LLM could give you the recipe and accurate instructions for creating, say, chemical weapons. Like, say, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis(2-chloroethyl)sulfide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bis(2-chloroethyl)sulfide or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene or: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarin