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This whole field is aggressively trying to become a messianic religion: a savior is coming; people aren’t clear if that’s good or bad, but it will be the end of

by bertil 3y ago

This whole field is aggressively trying to become a messianic religion: a savior is coming; people aren’t clear if that’s good or bad, but it will be the end of the world; you will be judged around whether you prepare for their arrival; sacrifices are necessary… Climate change has similar undertones, although it’s more cataclysmic: Karma, Floods, Seven Plagues, Noah, Revelations, Judgement, etc. Thiel must be looking at his autographed and heavily annotated copy of Girard’s _Le Bouc émissaire_ with mixed feelings.

ChatGTP 3y ago
I feel the same, there seem to be a lot of religious undertones going on. Even if we had an incredibly capable AGI it doesn't mean we're all going to be teleported to heaven, or become immortal, or that the world will end, or that it's here to save humanity, or that humanity even needs saving. People are injecting all of this into it. We have no idea what the future looks like, no one does. We do know what religion looks like and OpenAI and AI evangelism certainly looks similar we have claims about: * Potential for the end of times. * The reckoning (Roko's basilisk). * Potential for eternal life and even resurrections (Ray Kurzweil, Singularity university etc). * Blasphemy isn't allowed, "thou shall not question the AI future, it is coming no matter what, it is nigh". * We're told we need governance, a church. * Promises untold abundance if one believes. I'm not even trying to refute all these claims, like I said, I don't know what will happen in the future. I just went to a religious school and I get similar vibes lately from AI people. Humans have always wanted and tried to create demons, monsters, gods, idols. I don't actually think this is much different except this endeavor sort of intersects with "science", and technologies do exist. I'm just not sure we're seeing these develops in a healthy light. I guess we could say the invention of a church was also a type of social technology too?
wickoff 3y ago
If you suppress the heavy conservatism bias that most people have and actually look at what's going on, then the reasonable conclusion is that yes, Messiah is coming.

by bertil 3y ago

ChatGTP 3y ago

I feel the same, there seem to be a lot of religious undertones going on. Even if we had an incredibly capable AGI it doesn't mean we're all going to be teleported to heaven, or become immortal, or that the world will end, or that it's here to save humanity, or that humanity even needs saving. People are injecting all of this into it. We have no idea what the future looks like, no one does. We do know what religion looks like and OpenAI and AI evangelism certainly looks similar we have claims about: * Potential for the end of times. * The reckoning (Roko's basilisk). * Potential for eternal life and even resurrections (Ray Kurzweil, Singularity university etc). * Blasphemy isn't allowed, "thou shall not question the AI future, it is coming no matter what, it is nigh". * We're told we need governance, a church. * Promises untold abundance if one believes. I'm not even trying to refute all these claims, like I said, I don't know what will happen in the future. I just went to a religious school and I get similar vibes lately from AI people. Humans have always wanted and tried to create demons, monsters, gods, idols. I don't actually think this is much different except this endeavor sort of intersects with "science", and technologies do exist. I'm just not sure we're seeing these develops in a healthy light. I guess we could say the invention of a church was also a type of social technology too?

wickoff 3y ago

If you suppress the heavy conservatism bias that most people have and actually look at what's going on, then the reasonable conclusion is that yes, Messiah is coming.