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As someone living in the wild (actually rural), people out here have businesses and we were in dire need of broadband to run them, plus the usual lifestyle beni

As someone living in the wild (actually rural), people out here have businesses and we were in dire need of broadband to run them, plus the usual lifestyle benifits. It's not all sitting around enjoying natures view. As for 5G it has a ~500m range. Are telcos going to daisy chain towers down peoples driveways to reach one customer? 500m is not far in many rural and remote areas.

latchkey 3y ago
If you go to Vietnam, which is about the size and shape of California, and travel around the entire country, the government owns the cell towers and there was excellent 4G reception in even the most remote areas. This was back in 2018-2020 when I was exploring all around there. I've done the same explorations in California and reception was 1000x worse. My point is, yes... it is possible...
- Gustomaximus 3y ago
  1) Swapping to discuss 4G, is not 5G. It does have better coverage but will increasingly limit people as bandwidth requirements ever increase. 2) Vietnam/California are quite densely populated compared to the majority of the world so even if this worked here (but doesn't) one still cant assume its a wider solution. 3) Vietnam does have a significant mobile blackspots: https://www.nperf.com/en/map/VN/-/167.Viettel-Mobile/signal/?ll=12.46876014482322&lg=108.90472412109376&zoom=7 https://www.nperf.com/en/map/VN/-/167.Viettel-Mobile/signal/... So, sure anything is possible, but a good solution, far from it from what I can see.
  - latchkey 3y ago
    1) I left Vietnam in Jan 2020 (couldn't go back thanks to covid), so that's where my knowledge stops. 5G wasn't being rolled out yet. 3) A lot of those empty places are where nobody lives. All the major spots are well covered. I spent 2 years on a motorbike traveling the entire country and including into many super remote areas... I never once had coverage issues.
- belltaco 3y ago
  Vietnam has 2.5 times the population of California, what a bad comparison.
  - latchkey 3y ago
    Most of the population of Vietnam, lives in a few major cities.

latchkey 3y ago

If you go to Vietnam, which is about the size and shape of California, and travel around the entire country, the government owns the cell towers and there was excellent 4G reception in even the most remote areas. This was back in 2018-2020 when I was exploring all around there. I've done the same explorations in California and reception was 1000x worse. My point is, yes... it is possible...

Gustomaximus 3y ago
1) Swapping to discuss 4G, is not 5G. It does have better coverage but will increasingly limit people as bandwidth requirements ever increase. 2) Vietnam/California are quite densely populated compared to the majority of the world so even if this worked here (but doesn't) one still cant assume its a wider solution. 3) Vietnam does have a significant mobile blackspots: https://www.nperf.com/en/map/VN/-/167.Viettel-Mobile/signal/?ll=12.46876014482322&lg=108.90472412109376&zoom=7 https://www.nperf.com/en/map/VN/-/167.Viettel-Mobile/signal/... So, sure anything is possible, but a good solution, far from it from what I can see.
- latchkey 3y ago
  1) I left Vietnam in Jan 2020 (couldn't go back thanks to covid), so that's where my knowledge stops. 5G wasn't being rolled out yet. 3) A lot of those empty places are where nobody lives. All the major spots are well covered. I spent 2 years on a motorbike traveling the entire country and including into many super remote areas... I never once had coverage issues.
belltaco 3y ago
Vietnam has 2.5 times the population of California, what a bad comparison.
- latchkey 3y ago
  Most of the population of Vietnam, lives in a few major cities.