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> ....contractors installing metal grating for elevated walkways in the factory fell to the ground due to a lack of protective equipment. Some of the metal walk
by paulryanrogers 3y ago
> ....contractors installing metal grating for elevated walkways in the factory fell to the ground due to a lack of protective equipment. Some of the metal walkway fell on top of them.
Incredible. With stories like this it's amazing the whole place wasn't shutdown by regulators until management can demonstrate competence.
- dagmx 3y agoElon has a very close relationship with the Texas government as can be seen by the very brazen investigation from Ken Paxton into media matters. From the beginning, the appeal of Texas for Elon has been lower regulatory oversight.
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- metaphor 3y agoYou left out the kicker: > OSHA inspected this incident and fined the contractors.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoHow is that a kicker? If you hire someone to do work at your place of business (or home), and they fail to take the necessary precautions, why would you be held responsible?
- actionfromafar 3y agoYou kicked the can so far down the road I can't even see it anymore!
- metaphor 3y agoThe parent's remark suggests Tesla management was responsible and at fault; OSHA's disposition begged to differ, and that part was conveniently omitted from context.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoOh, I had understood “kicker” to mean something that further supported the paulryanroger’s comment.
- l1tany11 3y agoOSHA has 2200 employees. If you’ve been around construction you’ve probably witnessed how frequent osha violations are. Most people don’t even know hardly any of the regulations. I’d be shocked if even 1/4 of the construction industry was osha compliant half the time. The best is seeing the guy on the jackhammer with his ppe hanging around his neck. It’s like a cultural thing. Most guys in construction don’t seem to care at all. And osha has very little influence. Think of the number of workplaces, factories, and construction sites around the country compared to how many inspectors there are…
- paulryanrogers 3y agoOSHA can be expanded and careless cultures changed.
- malfist 3y agoSure, it can be. But one side was screaming about the IRS getting more auditors last year. I doubt they'll be any happier for OSHA
- Alupis 3y agoAnd if the other side wanted things to be "more safe" they would have done so via their iron grip on working unions around the country long ago...
- vkou 3y agoWhen it comes to voting, the dems are aligned with unions, but when it comes to policy, neither one of them is able to influence the other.
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoMost of the workforce is not in a union. Are you?
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- omgwtfbyobbq 3y agoThat is unfortunately not how osha functions. At best, they can conduct investigations and cite violations after something bad has happened. https://facilityexecutive.com/calosha-cites-disney-construction-for-two-worker-fatalities/ https://facilityexecutive.com/calosha-cites-disney-construct... They don't have the ability to shut down entire facilities and they don't have the resources to conduct proactive inspections to correct problems before people are hurt/killed.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoThen why does OSHA remain so toothless? Incident reporting should be mandatory and reports should trigger investigation and random inspections.
- hobs 3y agoFor the same reason the IRS has no money. Because funding them is absolutely against GOP priorities, and big business in general.
- willcipriano 3y ago> big business in general. So the Democrats as well.
- hobs 3y agoYes, but much more pointedly Republicans, Democrats have to pretend to care about workplace safety at least.
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- ianburrell 3y agoThen why has the number of OSHA inspectors increased significantly under Democratic president?
- Alupis 3y agoYa, you left out the important bit: > OSHA inspected this incident and fined the contractors. The contractors are the ones that were careless... not Tesla like your selective edits tries to imply. I get that it's fashionable to hate on Musk and his businesses right now - but come on... the implication here in your edit is absurd.
- seanosaur 3y agoThe "implication" in that "edit" is what the rest of the story describes. > ...Gigafactory in Austin, Texas, where one out of every 21 workers were reportedly hurt in 2022 > ...an engineer who approached a supposed shutdown robot arm but got clawed and pinned to the wall by the machine performing its programmed motions > At least one worker was concussed after getting launched back from an explosion in the metal casting area around New Year’s 2023. This isn't some hit piece on Tesla by way of contractor incompetence, there are substantial injuries happening to employees as well.
- Alupis 3y agoSo quote those things then! The edit was designed to imply something worse than it was - or perhaps OP didn't even read the article but wanted an opportunity to rant about Tesla.
- paulryanrogers 3y agoI read the article. I did not edit my comment. And the fact that this incident involved contractors doesn't make Tesla any less culpable, especially considering the pattern of accidents across their properties. This case just seemed to highlight how carelessly Tesla and those they contract with are about safety. I've fired contractors for less.
- Alupis 3y ago[flagged]