2015, so like 8 years ago. People do change. And there's two people here. Also, in general, when you have a CEO that's passionate, they tend to be bossy. If yo

2015, so like 8 years ago. People do change. And there's two people here. Also, in general, when you have a CEO that's passionate, they tend to be bossy. If you don't have that, then you're just passing the time until the VC money is gone.