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I'll tell you why I think he was there: Apple wants a 30% cut of all sales on the Steam platform. Steam purchases will soon be required to go through Apple's in

by ck717 14y ago

I'll tell you why I think he was there: Apple wants a 30% cut of all sales on the Steam platform. Steam purchases will soon be required to go through Apple's in-app purchase system.

lukeholder 14y ago
More likely he will offer them a far better deal than 30%. I also think apple tv and gaming will be discussed. Also relevant: Valve has JUST started advertising for hardware jobs: http://www.valvesoftware.com/jobs/job_postings.html http://www.valvesoftware.com/jobs/job_postings.html see "injection molding" etc in job descriptions.
taligent 14y ago
This is just ridiculous nonsense. Everyone who actually uses a Mac knows that the App Store is completely optional and can be deleted. So I fail to see how Apple could force Steam to hand over ANY money.
- ck717 14y ago
  Apple's got a history of changing the rules. I thought it was ridiculous nonsense when I heard that Apple was going to force Amazon to pay 30% for books purchased through their iPhone app too, yet here we are.
  - taligent 14y ago
    Well maybe you should spend more time actually knowing about the platform you're talking about. It was ALWAYS known to developers that purchases made through iOS apps would require you to pay 30% to Apple. Whether that is Amazon, New York Times or some random game.
    - ck717 14y ago
      Nope, you're absolutely, provably wrong. Amazon was selling books on the iPhone long before Apple even had an in-app purchase platform. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209580/Apple_s_new_App_Store_rules_affect_Amazon_s_Kindle http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209580/Apple_s_new_A...
  - lukeholder 14y ago
    they dont sell books through the apps in app purchases though? its just an app that allows you to see your book purchases isn't it?
    - ck717 14y ago
      They used to, before Apple demanded 30%. They couldn't afford to pay that, so they stopped selling books in their iOS app.
      - cmelbye 14y ago
        Minor nitpick, Apple has always taken a 30% cut of in-app purchases. Amazon never used in-app purchases for transactions, I believe they used to have some sort of in-app WebView that let users buy books on the amazon.com website. Apple told them they needed to either give them a 30% cut of those sales, or remove the WebView.
nkassis 14y ago
I'd be surprised that Valve would even go for that, Apple hasn't been their market anyway.
- Steko 14y ago
  Key word: "hasn't" as in past tense.
  - Splines 14y ago
    It still isn't. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey Mac HW numbers are in the single digits. Apple needs Valve, not the other way around.
    - Steko 14y ago
      I think you're missing the point or maybe I didn't do a good enough job communicating it. I don't mean the present is different but the future may well be. If desktops turn into trucks and Apple does to consoles what they did to mobiles then Valve will certainly need Apple.

by ck717 14y ago

I'll tell you why I think he was there: Apple wants a 30% cut of all sales on the Steam platform. Steam purchases will soon be required to go through Apple's in-app purchase system.

lukeholder 14y ago

More likely he will offer them a far better deal than 30%. I also think apple tv and gaming will be discussed. Also relevant: Valve has JUST started advertising for hardware jobs: http://www.valvesoftware.com/jobs/job_postings.html http://www.valvesoftware.com/jobs/job_postings.html see "injection molding" etc in job descriptions.

taligent 14y ago

This is just ridiculous nonsense. Everyone who actually uses a Mac knows that the App Store is completely optional and can be deleted. So I fail to see how Apple could force Steam to hand over ANY money.

ck717 14y ago
Apple's got a history of changing the rules. I thought it was ridiculous nonsense when I heard that Apple was going to force Amazon to pay 30% for books purchased through their iPhone app too, yet here we are.
- taligent 14y ago
  Well maybe you should spend more time actually knowing about the platform you're talking about. It was ALWAYS known to developers that purchases made through iOS apps would require you to pay 30% to Apple. Whether that is Amazon, New York Times or some random game.
  - ck717 14y ago
    Nope, you're absolutely, provably wrong. Amazon was selling books on the iPhone long before Apple even had an in-app purchase platform. http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209580/Apple_s_new_App_Store_rules_affect_Amazon_s_Kindle http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9209580/Apple_s_new_A...
- lukeholder 14y ago
  they dont sell books through the apps in app purchases though? its just an app that allows you to see your book purchases isn't it?
  - ck717 14y ago
    They used to, before Apple demanded 30%. They couldn't afford to pay that, so they stopped selling books in their iOS app.
    - cmelbye 14y ago
      Minor nitpick, Apple has always taken a 30% cut of in-app purchases. Amazon never used in-app purchases for transactions, I believe they used to have some sort of in-app WebView that let users buy books on the amazon.com website. Apple told them they needed to either give them a 30% cut of those sales, or remove the WebView.

nkassis 14y ago

I'd be surprised that Valve would even go for that, Apple hasn't been their market anyway.

Steko 14y ago
Key word: "hasn't" as in past tense.
- Splines 14y ago
  It still isn't. http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey Mac HW numbers are in the single digits. Apple needs Valve, not the other way around.
  - Steko 14y ago
    I think you're missing the point or maybe I didn't do a good enough job communicating it. I don't mean the present is different but the future may well be. If desktops turn into trucks and Apple does to consoles what they did to mobiles then Valve will certainly need Apple.