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On the topic of spam..."Spam" to me these days includes email from companies who abuse the soft opt-in, service emails and "existing commercial relationship" ru

On the topic of spam..."Spam" to me these days includes email from companies who abuse the soft opt-in, service emails and "existing commercial relationship" rules. Cart abandonment, tips on how to stay safe online, requests to go paperless, newsletters, claim your free subscription that came with your purchase, thank you for your purchase (separate to the order confirmation), requests to leave a review, continue your application, offering support, "you haven't logged in for a while", new login from $device, thank you for completing step X ... it's endless. An endless torrent of excuses to get the their company name in front of your eyeballs.

brightball 3y ago
"new login from $device" That's a security precaution, not spam.
- encom 3y ago
  Except all my logins are from "a new device" because I use Cookie AutoDelete, there's no way to opt out of this spam, and I don't give a shit if anyone DID actually hack my Google account because it's only a way to keep track of my Youtube watch history and subs. I filter these as spam.
  - brightball 3y ago
    As long as you know the reason. For everybody else, it’s not spam.
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- switch007 3y ago
  It's not a precaution. A security precaution would be blocking the login because of unusual activity I get so many, I tune out. I bet I'm not alone
  - brightball 3y ago
    That’s ideal, but it’s a lot harder and involves more invasive tracking to determine normal activity. You really have 2 options from a UX standpoint. Either allow the login and notify you, which gives you less friction in your experience with the application if it really is you. Or they can stop you right on the login screen and send you an email with a code or a link to click before you go further. It’s more secure, but it adds friction on the more common case that it really is you.
    - switch007 3y ago
      I understand, I was just playing along with the bold assertions and nit-picking
calvinmorrison 3y ago
The big spam to me at work is now people using linkedin and other tools to automatically find people's emails, and send them targted automated email that are, plaintext old outreach emails. for some reason this is just not getting caught in my spam filter. Frustrating! I never opted in!
- throw555chip 3y ago
  I deleted my LinkedIn account when it started becoming more like Facebook (nothing against FB, Wide likes it) but FB isn't for me. Also, I removed my public open source projects from GitHub after Microsoft bought them then removed them from GitLab too when the AI warnings about stealing copyrighted code started to sound more real.
  - calvinmorrison 3y ago
    I removed my github when they took my code and printed and put it in some archive. All rights reserved?
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zelphirkalt 3y ago
Gitlab does that stuff. Almost everytimr I log in, I get an e-mail about someone logging in from a new device. I am not even using a VPN on that machine. Wonder what their problem is. By now their stuff is marked as spam, when it hits my mailbox.

brightball 3y ago

"new login from $device" That's a security precaution, not spam.

encom 3y ago
Except all my logins are from "a new device" because I use Cookie AutoDelete, there's no way to opt out of this spam, and I don't give a shit if anyone DID actually hack my Google account because it's only a way to keep track of my Youtube watch history and subs. I filter these as spam.
- brightball 3y ago
  As long as you know the reason. For everybody else, it’s not spam.
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switch007 3y ago
It's not a precaution. A security precaution would be blocking the login because of unusual activity I get so many, I tune out. I bet I'm not alone
- brightball 3y ago
  That’s ideal, but it’s a lot harder and involves more invasive tracking to determine normal activity. You really have 2 options from a UX standpoint. Either allow the login and notify you, which gives you less friction in your experience with the application if it really is you. Or they can stop you right on the login screen and send you an email with a code or a link to click before you go further. It’s more secure, but it adds friction on the more common case that it really is you.
  - switch007 3y ago
    I understand, I was just playing along with the bold assertions and nit-picking

calvinmorrison 3y ago

The big spam to me at work is now people using linkedin and other tools to automatically find people's emails, and send them targted automated email that are, plaintext old outreach emails. for some reason this is just not getting caught in my spam filter. Frustrating! I never opted in!

throw555chip 3y ago
I deleted my LinkedIn account when it started becoming more like Facebook (nothing against FB, Wide likes it) but FB isn't for me. Also, I removed my public open source projects from GitHub after Microsoft bought them then removed them from GitLab too when the AI warnings about stealing copyrighted code started to sound more real.
- calvinmorrison 3y ago
  I removed my github when they took my code and printed and put it in some archive. All rights reserved?

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zelphirkalt 3y ago

Gitlab does that stuff. Almost everytimr I log in, I get an e-mail about someone logging in from a new device. I am not even using a VPN on that machine. Wonder what their problem is. By now their stuff is marked as spam, when it hits my mailbox.