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Powering all the accessories a police vehicle needs is a real problem. If they've left it even slightly hackable the aftermarket will make them the star of the

Powering all the accessories a police vehicle needs is a real problem. If they've left it even slightly hackable the aftermarket will make them the star of the show.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
There are alternatives readily available. https://electrek.co/2023/02/06/police-chief-explains-tesla-model-y-patrol-car-will-save/ https://electrek.co/2023/02/06/police-chief-explains-tesla-m... https://electrek.co/2023/05/09/tesla-model-y-police-dept-go-all-electric/ https://electrek.co/2023/05/09/tesla-model-y-police-dept-go-... https://www.fremontpolice.gov/community/hybrid-and-electric-patrol-vehicles https://www.fremontpolice.gov/community/hybrid-and-electric-... https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1490/a-close-look-at-tesla-s-model-y-as-a-police-cruiser https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1490/a-close-look-at-tesla... https://www.government-fleet.com/10182136/indiana-pd-upfits-tesla-model-y-for-k-9 https://www.government-fleet.com/10182136/indiana-pd-upfits-... Tangentially, this class of vehicle is best suited for replacement by EVs; you want to direct unit flow to the highest utilization use cases to destroy fossil fuel demand and consumption. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gasoline-superusers-only-10-of-us-drivers-burn-almost-a-third-of-the-gas/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gasoline-superusers-only-... ("Gasoline superusers: Only 10% of US drivers burn almost a third of the gas") https://coltura.org/gasoline-superusers-2-report/ https://coltura.org/gasoline-superusers-2-report/ https://ibb.co/Vq928g5 https://ibb.co/Vq928g5
- vlovich123 3y ago
  > Gasoline superusers: Only 10% of US drivers burn almost a third of the gas For what it’s worth that will always be true and is just an observation of the Pareto principle. For example, once you get rid of that 10% you’ll still likely have roughly the same ratio remain true even though in absolute terms there’s been a reduction.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Indeed, but you don't want to be putting EVs in the garage for folks who drive a few thousand miles a year (although those sales do help spinning up the manufacturing flywheel). You want to target the highest petroleum consumers and work your way down the long tail, at least until we reach a point where petroleum demand drops below a floor where the supply chain begins to collapse.
- KennyBlanken 3y ago
  "There are lots of alternatives!" all their links are about one manufacturer You're not wrong about EVs and hybrids being ideal for fleets like police, but acting like the market is flush with choices for police departments is absurd. Not to mention, Teslas are an idiotic choice for a group of users who tend to need bodywork pretty often, given how a lot of minor collisions total Teslas, or the body shops are booked out months or longer.

Powering all the accessories a police vehicle needs is a real problem. If they've left it even slightly hackable the aftermarket will make them the star of the show.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

There are alternatives readily available. https://electrek.co/2023/02/06/police-chief-explains-tesla-model-y-patrol-car-will-save/ https://electrek.co/2023/02/06/police-chief-explains-tesla-m... https://electrek.co/2023/05/09/tesla-model-y-police-dept-go-all-electric/ https://electrek.co/2023/05/09/tesla-model-y-police-dept-go-... https://www.fremontpolice.gov/community/hybrid-and-electric-patrol-vehicles https://www.fremontpolice.gov/community/hybrid-and-electric-... https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1490/a-close-look-at-tesla-s-model-y-as-a-police-cruiser https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1490/a-close-look-at-tesla... https://www.government-fleet.com/10182136/indiana-pd-upfits-tesla-model-y-for-k-9 https://www.government-fleet.com/10182136/indiana-pd-upfits-... Tangentially, this class of vehicle is best suited for replacement by EVs; you want to direct unit flow to the highest utilization use cases to destroy fossil fuel demand and consumption. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gasoline-superusers-only-10-of-us-drivers-burn-almost-a-third-of-the-gas/ https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gasoline-superusers-only-... ("Gasoline superusers: Only 10% of US drivers burn almost a third of the gas") https://coltura.org/gasoline-superusers-2-report/ https://coltura.org/gasoline-superusers-2-report/ https://ibb.co/Vq928g5 https://ibb.co/Vq928g5

vlovich123 3y ago
> Gasoline superusers: Only 10% of US drivers burn almost a third of the gas For what it’s worth that will always be true and is just an observation of the Pareto principle. For example, once you get rid of that 10% you’ll still likely have roughly the same ratio remain true even though in absolute terms there’s been a reduction.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Indeed, but you don't want to be putting EVs in the garage for folks who drive a few thousand miles a year (although those sales do help spinning up the manufacturing flywheel). You want to target the highest petroleum consumers and work your way down the long tail, at least until we reach a point where petroleum demand drops below a floor where the supply chain begins to collapse.
KennyBlanken 3y ago
"There are lots of alternatives!" all their links are about one manufacturer You're not wrong about EVs and hybrids being ideal for fleets like police, but acting like the market is flush with choices for police departments is absurd. Not to mention, Teslas are an idiotic choice for a group of users who tend to need bodywork pretty often, given how a lot of minor collisions total Teslas, or the body shops are booked out months or longer.