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Are you sure Ilya was the root of this. He backed it and then signed the pledge to quit if it wasn't undone. What's the evidence he was behind it and not D'An

Are you sure Ilya was the root of this. He backed it and then signed the pledge to quit if it wasn't undone. What's the evidence he was behind it and not D'Angelo?

dr_dshiv 3y ago
If we only look at the outcomes (dismantling of board), Microsoft and Sam seem to have the most motive.
__loam 3y ago
I'm not sure I buy the idea that Ilya was just some hapless researcher who got unwillingly pulled into this. Any one of the board could have voted not to remove Sam and stop the board coup, including Ilya. I'd bet he only got cold feet after the story became international news and after most of the company threatened to resign because their bag was in jeopardy.
- Xelynega 3y ago
  That's a strange framing. In that scenario would it not be that he made the decision he thought was right and aligned with openais mission initially, then when seeing the public support Sam had he decided to backtrack so he had a future career?
jiveturkey 3y ago
wake up people! (said rhetorically, not accusatory or any other way) This is Altman's playbook. He did a similar ousting at Reddit. This was planned all along to overturn the board. Ilya was in on it. I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist. But fool me ... you can't be fooled again. As they say in Tennessee
- bugglebeetle 3y ago
  What’s the backstory on Reddit?
  - occamsrazorwit 3y ago
    Yishan (former Reddit CEO) describes how Altman orchestrated the removal of Reddit's owner: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszwpgq/?context=2 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... Note that the response is Altman's, and he seems to support it. As additional context, Paul Graham has said a number of times that Altman is one of the most power-hungry and successful people he know (as praise). Paul Graham, who's met hundreds if not thousands of experienced leaders in tech, says this.
- bossyTeacher 3y ago
  what happenned in reddit?

Are you sure Ilya was the root of this. He backed it and then signed the pledge to quit if it wasn't undone. What's the evidence he was behind it and not D'Angelo?

dr_dshiv 3y ago

If we only look at the outcomes (dismantling of board), Microsoft and Sam seem to have the most motive.

__loam 3y ago

I'm not sure I buy the idea that Ilya was just some hapless researcher who got unwillingly pulled into this. Any one of the board could have voted not to remove Sam and stop the board coup, including Ilya. I'd bet he only got cold feet after the story became international news and after most of the company threatened to resign because their bag was in jeopardy.

Xelynega 3y ago
That's a strange framing. In that scenario would it not be that he made the decision he thought was right and aligned with openais mission initially, then when seeing the public support Sam had he decided to backtrack so he had a future career?

jiveturkey 3y ago

wake up people! (said rhetorically, not accusatory or any other way) This is Altman's playbook. He did a similar ousting at Reddit. This was planned all along to overturn the board. Ilya was in on it. I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist. But fool me ... you can't be fooled again. As they say in Tennessee

bugglebeetle 3y ago
What’s the backstory on Reddit?
- occamsrazorwit 3y ago
  Yishan (former Reddit CEO) describes how Altman orchestrated the removal of Reddit's owner: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszwpgq/?context=2 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the... Note that the response is Altman's, and he seems to support it. As additional context, Paul Graham has said a number of times that Altman is one of the most power-hungry and successful people he know (as praise). Paul Graham, who's met hundreds if not thousands of experienced leaders in tech, says this.
bossyTeacher 3y ago
what happenned in reddit?