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John Titor said he arrived in a 1967 Corvette that he brought with him from 2036. I do not think he said it was a 2036 Corvette. If he planned to travel to the

John Titor said he arrived in a 1967 Corvette that he brought with him from 2036. I do not think he said it was a 2036 Corvette. If he planned to travel to the early 1970's, that makes sense. Here is a bit about it. I can not confirm any of what they are saying: https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnTitor/comments/yago4w/john_titors_corvette_would_have_a_duplicate/ https://www.reddit.com/r/JohnTitor/comments/yago4w/john_tito...

ge96 3y ago
Could carbon dating prove age or is that too accurate eg. needs to be 100s of years apart.
- RecycledEle 3y ago
  That is an interesting idea. We are unlikely to ever get a resolution, but... There are imperfections from the factory in every car. Welds were done by hand in 1976. Repairs were done by hand. I wonder what improbable similarities the 2 cars could have.
  - quietpain 3y ago
    The car would be authentic, built in 1967. What the person is asking is whether there's a technique to distinguish a car from 1967 from a sibling that was brought back from 2036.
    - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
      Look for radioisotopes from the war of 2031.
    - RecycledEle 3y ago
      Let's say there was a Corvette made in 1967. Let's say that in the 2030's, John Titor brought it back to the past. Let's say we found this car because it had a duplicate VIN number. Then if we put the 2 cars side-by-side, we should be able to tell if one is a re-VINed stolen car, or if they are both the same car. I suggested we look at welds that were done by hand in 1967 to determine if the 2 cars were the same car. Does that make sense?
      - lazide 3y ago
        In this scenario, both cars would be made in 1967. One of the cars would be a few years old. The other car would be about 70 years old. Yeah?
        RecycledEle 3y ago
        > One of the cars would be a few years old. Let's recheck your math. A 1967 Corvette would me more than a few years old in 2023.
        lazide 3y ago
        We’re talking 1969 when the time travel scenario occurs.
- prerok 3y ago
  Not that I am any sort of expert on the subject, but the way I understand it is: 1. If you have a fossil you can carbon date it based on the amount of C14, which is an isotope of carbon, and is present in relatively stable amounts in living organisms. That's because a living organism takes carbon from its environment and then incorporates it in itself and C14 is continuously generated in the environment because of the radiation from the sun. As the organism dies, the intake stops, so then you can determine its age based on the half life of the C14 and the amount of it still remaining in the remains. Long story short: it cannot be accurate. 2. You can only measure this in remains of dead organisms. Maybe in leather, if the car had some, otherwise I don't think you could easily carbon date a car :)
- quietpain 3y ago
  If there's even a diode worth of band-gap technology in there: yes, ageing would be demonstrably different in a device that lived a couple of decades longer. The crystal lattice is not set in stone and atoms move around.
- BurningFrog 3y ago
  You can probably carbon date the rubber in the tires: https://meridian.allenpress.com/rct/article-abstract/50/4/819/91112/Identification-of-Natural-and-Synthetic?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://meridian.allenpress.com/rct/article-abstract/50/4/81...
  - RecycledEle 3y ago
    It is unlikely that a 1967 Corvette has tires on it that are more than a few years old.

ge96 3y ago

Could carbon dating prove age or is that too accurate eg. needs to be 100s of years apart.

RecycledEle 3y ago
That is an interesting idea. We are unlikely to ever get a resolution, but... There are imperfections from the factory in every car. Welds were done by hand in 1976. Repairs were done by hand. I wonder what improbable similarities the 2 cars could have.
- quietpain 3y ago
  The car would be authentic, built in 1967. What the person is asking is whether there's a technique to distinguish a car from 1967 from a sibling that was brought back from 2036.
  - AnimalMuppet 3y ago
    Look for radioisotopes from the war of 2031.
  - RecycledEle 3y ago
    Let's say there was a Corvette made in 1967. Let's say that in the 2030's, John Titor brought it back to the past. Let's say we found this car because it had a duplicate VIN number. Then if we put the 2 cars side-by-side, we should be able to tell if one is a re-VINed stolen car, or if they are both the same car. I suggested we look at welds that were done by hand in 1967 to determine if the 2 cars were the same car. Does that make sense?
    - lazide 3y ago
      In this scenario, both cars would be made in 1967. One of the cars would be a few years old. The other car would be about 70 years old. Yeah?
      - RecycledEle 3y ago
        > One of the cars would be a few years old. Let's recheck your math. A 1967 Corvette would me more than a few years old in 2023.
        lazide 3y ago
        We’re talking 1969 when the time travel scenario occurs.
prerok 3y ago
Not that I am any sort of expert on the subject, but the way I understand it is: 1. If you have a fossil you can carbon date it based on the amount of C14, which is an isotope of carbon, and is present in relatively stable amounts in living organisms. That's because a living organism takes carbon from its environment and then incorporates it in itself and C14 is continuously generated in the environment because of the radiation from the sun. As the organism dies, the intake stops, so then you can determine its age based on the half life of the C14 and the amount of it still remaining in the remains. Long story short: it cannot be accurate. 2. You can only measure this in remains of dead organisms. Maybe in leather, if the car had some, otherwise I don't think you could easily carbon date a car :)
quietpain 3y ago
If there's even a diode worth of band-gap technology in there: yes, ageing would be demonstrably different in a device that lived a couple of decades longer. The crystal lattice is not set in stone and atoms move around.
BurningFrog 3y ago
You can probably carbon date the rubber in the tires: https://meridian.allenpress.com/rct/article-abstract/50/4/819/91112/Identification-of-Natural-and-Synthetic?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://meridian.allenpress.com/rct/article-abstract/50/4/81...
- RecycledEle 3y ago
  It is unlikely that a 1967 Corvette has tires on it that are more than a few years old.