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>But it is not accidental because isolation is one of the most important techniques of cult mind control. The point of Sequences is the same point as Dianetics

>But it is not accidental because isolation is one of the most important techniques of cult mind control. The point of Sequences is the same point as Dianetics it is supposed to rewrite the way you communicate so you just can’t relate to “wogs” At the very minimum, that might have been the way it worked with previous grifter cults. You can sort of characterize those as the ones that were created for a single founder to exploit the cult for, money, sex, and adulation. But, if these others are cults, then they're a very different sort. They do seem to want to communicate to others. That tends not to happen, as the other side seems to shut down communications one way or another (something like an immune response?). > Everybody else concerned about the future is concerned about climate change but EA is at first silent and then reveals itself as a climate denying movement I'm fairly sure your species is functionally extinct already. It's unclear why you're concerned about the future farther than, I dunno, 100 years out. While there are exceptions here and there, as a civilization you seem hellbent on wrecking your fertility. Any civilization that can't be bothered or otherwise refuses to create the replacements for those that will die of old age is already gone even if it doesn't know it yet. Climate change isn't a problem, because 500 years from now there won't be anyone around to suffer it.

PaulHoule 3y ago
Cults have always had some focus on "recruiting", partially because they do recruit people that way but because it leads into despairing interactions with "wogs" that lead members to believe the outside world is corrupt. I don't know if you've had the experience of having a friend get into Amway and then giving you a long rambling nonsensical lecture about how they plan to make money at Amway that makes no sense at all... but you should because it's an education in how discourses with that structure play a role in mind control. You see them in Scientology, you see them in scam supplement ads on YouTube (it's genius that they ramble for 45 minutes before revealing what they are selling), and you see them in EA. As for risks the cultural risks you are talking about are very real and not taken seriously enough although sometimes I wonder if the largest urban areas are just full and people who are living in a place that is full have an instinct to stop reproducing. If that's the case and there is a significant population drop it may turn around.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
  You provide some insight. I agree that these patterns exist and are meaningful. But I see them in the climate change people too.
  - PaulHoule 3y ago
    Yeah, the pattern that bothers me the most in people's behavior in social media in 2023 is the rise of "parareligious" movements which are about people finding meaning in (frequently politicized) beliefs. The following pair of examples seems to piss everybody off. In one corner we have the person with conservative views who was just an ordinary person working, eating, sleeping and watching TV until some point in 2021 when they discovered purpose in their life because they would wake up each morning and read a lot about how everything the government about COVID-19 has done (vaccines, masks, closures, etc.) and not just wrong because people made a mistake but because of some deeply seated moral flaws in the political class. In the other corner is a person who believes they have long COVID or who believes they are exceptionally vulnerable to COVID so when they see someone isn't wearing a mask they put on two masks. On their Mastodon profile they say they'll ban you if you ever post a selfie of yourself not wearing a mask. (I had a friend who used to be into all sorts of things like music festivals and Martin Scorsese movies but now all she wants to talk about is fashion face masks.) The thing both of these people have in common, though they'll deny it, was their life was empty and meaningless doing ordinary things but now that they're suffering under fascist oppression or are under mortal threat by a virus every moment of their life is elevated. Either one will have a hard time accepting a "return to normal".

PaulHoule 3y ago

Cults have always had some focus on "recruiting", partially because they do recruit people that way but because it leads into despairing interactions with "wogs" that lead members to believe the outside world is corrupt. I don't know if you've had the experience of having a friend get into Amway and then giving you a long rambling nonsensical lecture about how they plan to make money at Amway that makes no sense at all... but you should because it's an education in how discourses with that structure play a role in mind control. You see them in Scientology, you see them in scam supplement ads on YouTube (it's genius that they ramble for 45 minutes before revealing what they are selling), and you see them in EA. As for risks the cultural risks you are talking about are very real and not taken seriously enough although sometimes I wonder if the largest urban areas are just full and people who are living in a place that is full have an instinct to stop reproducing. If that's the case and there is a significant population drop it may turn around.

NoMoreNicksLeft 3y ago
You provide some insight. I agree that these patterns exist and are meaningful. But I see them in the climate change people too.
- PaulHoule 3y ago
  Yeah, the pattern that bothers me the most in people's behavior in social media in 2023 is the rise of "parareligious" movements which are about people finding meaning in (frequently politicized) beliefs. The following pair of examples seems to piss everybody off. In one corner we have the person with conservative views who was just an ordinary person working, eating, sleeping and watching TV until some point in 2021 when they discovered purpose in their life because they would wake up each morning and read a lot about how everything the government about COVID-19 has done (vaccines, masks, closures, etc.) and not just wrong because people made a mistake but because of some deeply seated moral flaws in the political class. In the other corner is a person who believes they have long COVID or who believes they are exceptionally vulnerable to COVID so when they see someone isn't wearing a mask they put on two masks. On their Mastodon profile they say they'll ban you if you ever post a selfie of yourself not wearing a mask. (I had a friend who used to be into all sorts of things like music festivals and Martin Scorsese movies but now all she wants to talk about is fashion face masks.) The thing both of these people have in common, though they'll deny it, was their life was empty and meaningless doing ordinary things but now that they're suffering under fascist oppression or are under mortal threat by a virus every moment of their life is elevated. Either one will have a hard time accepting a "return to normal".