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This is such a partisan take: It's okay to not like the Trudeau government, but to distort your worldview based upon it is not productive. What "evidence" you t

This is such a partisan take: It's okay to not like the Trudeau government, but to distort your worldview based upon it is not productive. What "evidence" you think Canada must release to satisfy your zeal? Canada isn't appealing to some world hot take court for justice. And I have no idea what Canada's purported "poker hand" was. The government revealed an incident when the media discovered it and it continues at its normal pace behind the scenes. India had an apocalyptic, absurdly over the top fit and Canada yawned. India has literally zero sway over Canada so it was all rather ridiculous. And this US revelation clearly springs from exactly the same well (via exactly the same intelligence sharing). I mean, when the Canada revelation happened the US leaked that they were investigating something and has repeatedly announced their concern about this. If anything the outsized Indian reaction to Canada was precisely because they thought they could preempt this from the US.

twisteriffic 3y ago
> This is such a partisan take: It's okay to not like the Trudeau government, but to distort your worldview based upon it is not productive. Thank you for saying this. It's nice to know there are still reasonable people here.
dmix 3y ago
Oh come on India bullied Canada and got away with it. Maybe there is some “justice” coming but all that’s happened is Canada showed it was too scared to take any risk at all, had a soft as hell muted response by a leader who clearly isn’t respected enough to be taken seriously to sell consequences. His behaviour before this incident set this up for failure too, it’s a long built up pattern where Canada is losing its position as a diplomatic power player and this just shows our leadership as a global moral authority is basically been nullified. This is diplomatic and precedent setting as much as it’s a pursuit of some specific criminal justice. Obsessing about not disrupting the the economic/diplomatic/immigration status quo, not offending anybody even when they seriously violate your sovereignty, and just generally playing nice guy is not how you deal with this sort of situation.
- stefan_ 3y ago
  It's funny, you clearly read the news in this very thread (US publicly denouncing a kill plot on US soil), yet you absolutely don't manage to connect the two.
- llm_nerd 3y ago
  >This is diplomatic and precedent setting Extrajudicial killings by governments have happened for time eternal. There is absolutely nothing new or precedent setting about this. The truth is that most of the time governments deal with it quietly and behind the scenes. It's actually incredibly odd for the US to have announced what they have, and it is almost certainly because of the Canada thing. >a leader who clearly isn’t respected enough You have partisan glasses on. What do you think any other leader would have done? Would Harper have declared war? Would PP in the future? Given that India absolutely flipped their shit (they've backtracked on all of it, as an aside...so powerful), clearly Canada's announcement by itself was an enormous action. But seriously, what do you think the US is going to do? The most powerful nation on the planet is going to...send some diplomatic cables and express their disatisfaction.
  - maxglute 3y ago
    >But seriously, what do you think the US is going to do? If Canada had any sway, they could prod US to delay or suspend military tech transfer to India to compel an investigation. But obviously Canada doesn't have that kind of leverage.
    - llm_nerd 3y ago
      That's some bizarre logic. Especially given this submission is actually about India trying to kill a guy in the US... I guess the US has no sway over the US. Those Americans really wish they had that sort of leverage. Canada is completing its investigation, at which point they'll name various Indian government agents and charge them with murder. India will declare diplomatic immunity. Do you really think the horrendously corrupt Modi government is going to investigate its own actions in any meaningful or viable way? And just to be clear, the US announcing what they did is clearly putting its full weight behind Canada's findings.

twisteriffic 3y ago

> This is such a partisan take: It's okay to not like the Trudeau government, but to distort your worldview based upon it is not productive. Thank you for saying this. It's nice to know there are still reasonable people here.

dmix 3y ago

Oh come on India bullied Canada and got away with it. Maybe there is some “justice” coming but all that’s happened is Canada showed it was too scared to take any risk at all, had a soft as hell muted response by a leader who clearly isn’t respected enough to be taken seriously to sell consequences. His behaviour before this incident set this up for failure too, it’s a long built up pattern where Canada is losing its position as a diplomatic power player and this just shows our leadership as a global moral authority is basically been nullified. This is diplomatic and precedent setting as much as it’s a pursuit of some specific criminal justice. Obsessing about not disrupting the the economic/diplomatic/immigration status quo, not offending anybody even when they seriously violate your sovereignty, and just generally playing nice guy is not how you deal with this sort of situation.

stefan_ 3y ago
It's funny, you clearly read the news in this very thread (US publicly denouncing a kill plot on US soil), yet you absolutely don't manage to connect the two.
llm_nerd 3y ago
>This is diplomatic and precedent setting Extrajudicial killings by governments have happened for time eternal. There is absolutely nothing new or precedent setting about this. The truth is that most of the time governments deal with it quietly and behind the scenes. It's actually incredibly odd for the US to have announced what they have, and it is almost certainly because of the Canada thing. >a leader who clearly isn’t respected enough You have partisan glasses on. What do you think any other leader would have done? Would Harper have declared war? Would PP in the future? Given that India absolutely flipped their shit (they've backtracked on all of it, as an aside...so powerful), clearly Canada's announcement by itself was an enormous action. But seriously, what do you think the US is going to do? The most powerful nation on the planet is going to...send some diplomatic cables and express their disatisfaction.
- maxglute 3y ago
  >But seriously, what do you think the US is going to do? If Canada had any sway, they could prod US to delay or suspend military tech transfer to India to compel an investigation. But obviously Canada doesn't have that kind of leverage.
  - llm_nerd 3y ago
    That's some bizarre logic. Especially given this submission is actually about India trying to kill a guy in the US... I guess the US has no sway over the US. Those Americans really wish they had that sort of leverage. Canada is completing its investigation, at which point they'll name various Indian government agents and charge them with murder. India will declare diplomatic immunity. Do you really think the horrendously corrupt Modi government is going to investigate its own actions in any meaningful or viable way? And just to be clear, the US announcing what they did is clearly putting its full weight behind Canada's findings.