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Is it OK to just mention a common misconception which is still prelevant about Linux? Rolling releases provides STABLE verions of software/packages. It is NOT

Is it OK to just mention a common misconception which is still prelevant about Linux? Rolling releases provides STABLE verions of software/packages. It is NOT "bleeding edge" since it is NOT a development branch. It is the latest stable version provided by the upstream (developer/cretors of the software). Point release comes from a time where we didn't have continous development. We didn't have these faster updates. We should be using rolling release distros like Arch/Void/OpenSUSE more cos Linux ecosystem is far more stable than you think these days. I find more breaks in point releases than in rolling releases. Use stable software. Not old software which gets software patches from the latest stable version after which each distro has to backport the fix. Then maintain that which leads to more bugs. Just use latest stable versions. Use rolling releases. :) You don't call iOS 17 as bleeding edge. Firefox 119 which is the latest version of Firefox as bleeding edge right? It is a stable software version. ALSO HARDWARE: Using Linux compatible hardware will make the entire experience pleasant. There is this notion that Linux works on anything. It does. BUT NOT 100%. You'll loose bluetooth, wifi or some other things. If you want good experience, don't go for vendors like Razer laptops and complain that Linux is not working properly. Use supported hardware. There are so many these days.

planede 3y ago
I find Debian unstable to be a perfectly stable rolling release distro. Unfortunate naming.
- unsungNovelty 3y ago
  Yes. But unstable is Debian's repo. Unstable repo contains software packages which is tested against Debian. It doesn't mean instability of the software. But unstable against Debian. There is a huge misconception and misunderstanding regarding what these Stable/Testing/Unstable repos means. Unfortunate indeed.
renegat0x0 3y ago
Had arch Linux 3 times. Each time was ended with some update problem. This is not definition of stable. This has not happened on debian yet.
- unsungNovelty 3y ago
  I don't know the issues you faced. But Arch in itself is a DIY distro. Not a managed rolling release like Void/OpenSUSE etc. This means you are expected to maintain it. Any updates which need manual handholding usually comes up at https://archlinux.org/news/ https://archlinux.org/news/. But I am glad you use whatever works for you now. :) If you are curious, here is what I do. I update every two or three weeks. I have timeshift setup which means if anything bricks (Which hasn't in last 5 years), I just rollback it up with zero terminal usage. If I have time, I do use terminal. Otherwise I will just rollback and wait for the fix. Also, I have seen a lot of issues in point release which gets fixed by just a software update in rolling releases. This might sound like a lot. But usually this means going to https://archlinux.org/news/ https://archlinux.org/news/ and see if there is any new news which needs manual intervention. Usually there won't be. And read the packages that are getting updated. If I do have time, I usually skim through forums for any outstanding issues. But I have become sooo lazy and confident about Arch Linux that I haven't in months.
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throw555chip 3y ago
> We should be using rolling release distros like Arch/Void/OpenSUSE No thanks, standard Ubuntu or Kubuntu are great. I don't want a rolling release nightmare like Windows. Steam screwed up by not using at least Debian (base for Ubuntu/Kubuntu) in their Steam console.

planede 3y ago

I find Debian unstable to be a perfectly stable rolling release distro. Unfortunate naming.

unsungNovelty 3y ago
Yes. But unstable is Debian's repo. Unstable repo contains software packages which is tested against Debian. It doesn't mean instability of the software. But unstable against Debian. There is a huge misconception and misunderstanding regarding what these Stable/Testing/Unstable repos means. Unfortunate indeed.

renegat0x0 3y ago

Had arch Linux 3 times. Each time was ended with some update problem. This is not definition of stable. This has not happened on debian yet.

unsungNovelty 3y ago
I don't know the issues you faced. But Arch in itself is a DIY distro. Not a managed rolling release like Void/OpenSUSE etc. This means you are expected to maintain it. Any updates which need manual handholding usually comes up at https://archlinux.org/news/ https://archlinux.org/news/. But I am glad you use whatever works for you now. :) If you are curious, here is what I do. I update every two or three weeks. I have timeshift setup which means if anything bricks (Which hasn't in last 5 years), I just rollback it up with zero terminal usage. If I have time, I do use terminal. Otherwise I will just rollback and wait for the fix. Also, I have seen a lot of issues in point release which gets fixed by just a software update in rolling releases. This might sound like a lot. But usually this means going to https://archlinux.org/news/ https://archlinux.org/news/ and see if there is any new news which needs manual intervention. Usually there won't be. And read the packages that are getting updated. If I do have time, I usually skim through forums for any outstanding issues. But I have become sooo lazy and confident about Arch Linux that I haven't in months.

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throw555chip 3y ago

> We should be using rolling release distros like Arch/Void/OpenSUSE No thanks, standard Ubuntu or Kubuntu are great. I don't want a rolling release nightmare like Windows. Steam screwed up by not using at least Debian (base for Ubuntu/Kubuntu) in their Steam console.