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Amazing that windows systems are so bad that people are justified in buying a $7k laptop instead of a 4x 4090 + threadripper super computer.

n8cpdx 3y ago
What are you talking about? Just the four cards is $10k, and then you still need to buy the rest of the computer. And you probably can’t take it with you and use it from the coffee shop or the couch. And yes, Windows systems are bad. They shipped broken TouchID for years, and they don’t trust you to turn off OneDrive (and will re-enable at every turn). Edge just gave me a toolbar yesterday that looked like browser chrome, but was actually a GamePass ad. I’m just pulling the easiest examples, listen to Windows Weekly for a full enumeration.
- anonymouskimmer 3y ago
  I think GP used "windows" in lowercase to refer to all windowing operating systems, not just the MS one?
infecto 3y ago
Do people actually care about costs this low for business use? Thats just a minor cost. Certainly there is a line to when it makes sense to compare costs but we are talking about sub $10k costs for a tool that lets say has a 3 year life for a business, so $3300 per year or $275 per month. I would think most of the individuals on this forum are generating more than $275 of value per month on their laptop. Its less about justifying and more that the cost is meaningless compared to the value. There is some intersection of objective and subjective analysis here, I don't care if you want a $10k laptop that runs linux.
- Toutouxc 3y ago
  > Do people actually care about costs this low for business use? Thats just a minor cost. Yes, in many places outside of SV, they do. $10k is slightly less than what I paid for my car, it’s more than a year of rent and is more than some (unfortunate) people in this country make in a year. And this is still Europe, a country with paved roads, fiber internet and free healthcare. I do my job on a $1700 MacBook, I could probably do it on a $300 Thinkpad and I personally could go and buy a $10k laptop, but my girlfriend would without doubt leave me on the very same day.
scarface_74 3y ago
Surprisingly, I care about things like battery life, noise and being able to put a laptop on my lap without the heat ensuring that there will never be any little Scarfaces

n8cpdx 3y ago

What are you talking about? Just the four cards is $10k, and then you still need to buy the rest of the computer. And you probably can’t take it with you and use it from the coffee shop or the couch. And yes, Windows systems are bad. They shipped broken TouchID for years, and they don’t trust you to turn off OneDrive (and will re-enable at every turn). Edge just gave me a toolbar yesterday that looked like browser chrome, but was actually a GamePass ad. I’m just pulling the easiest examples, listen to Windows Weekly for a full enumeration.

anonymouskimmer 3y ago
I think GP used "windows" in lowercase to refer to all windowing operating systems, not just the MS one?

infecto 3y ago

Do people actually care about costs this low for business use? Thats just a minor cost. Certainly there is a line to when it makes sense to compare costs but we are talking about sub $10k costs for a tool that lets say has a 3 year life for a business, so $3300 per year or $275 per month. I would think most of the individuals on this forum are generating more than $275 of value per month on their laptop. Its less about justifying and more that the cost is meaningless compared to the value. There is some intersection of objective and subjective analysis here, I don't care if you want a $10k laptop that runs linux.

Toutouxc 3y ago
> Do people actually care about costs this low for business use? Thats just a minor cost. Yes, in many places outside of SV, they do. $10k is slightly less than what I paid for my car, it’s more than a year of rent and is more than some (unfortunate) people in this country make in a year. And this is still Europe, a country with paved roads, fiber internet and free healthcare. I do my job on a $1700 MacBook, I could probably do it on a $300 Thinkpad and I personally could go and buy a $10k laptop, but my girlfriend would without doubt leave me on the very same day.

scarface_74 3y ago

Surprisingly, I care about things like battery life, noise and being able to put a laptop on my lap without the heat ensuring that there will never be any little Scarfaces