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> Some things are more important than youtubes preferred business model working. Is you following the law and acting ethicaly by using a company's services as

> Some things are more important than youtubes preferred business model working. Is you following the law and acting ethicaly by using a company's services as outlined by their terms of service important? * https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/14129599 * https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 https://www.youtube.com/t/terms#c3e2907ca8 The ToS says that if you want to watch vides (without paying for Premium) you have to not block ads. Why can't you just either (a) follow the ToS, or (b) stop using the service? I just don't understand why you feel entitled to cheat the system.

PawgerZ 3y ago
I didn't log in, I didn't agree to their terms of service. This is what people mean when they say it is "public"
asadotzler 3y ago
I don't accept those TOS and yet Google still sends me the content I request via my browser. TOS are not a binding contract.
PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago
> Why can't you just either (a) follow the ToS, or (b) stop using the service? Am I cheating the system if I go to Oktoberfest and listen to music I didn't pay to listen to? Am I cheating the system if I watch an ad and then don't purchase the item being advertised? am I cheating the system if I choose not to pull off the highway and gas up at the gas station that was advertised on the sign right before the off-ramp? All of these things are equivalent, yet big tech has convinced you one is not like the others.
- fragmede 3y ago
  I think it's more like if your car has screens for windows, and puts a black box over every billboard so you don't see them and don't know there's a gas station. In all the cases you presented, you're still seeing the advertisement. Seeing the Grammerly ad before a YouTube video doesn't create an obligation for you to install the plugin either, what's important to Google is that you saw it in the first place.

PawgerZ 3y ago

I didn't log in, I didn't agree to their terms of service. This is what people mean when they say it is "public"

asadotzler 3y ago

I don't accept those TOS and yet Google still sends me the content I request via my browser. TOS are not a binding contract.

PH95VuimJjqBqy 3y ago

> Why can't you just either (a) follow the ToS, or (b) stop using the service? Am I cheating the system if I go to Oktoberfest and listen to music I didn't pay to listen to? Am I cheating the system if I watch an ad and then don't purchase the item being advertised? am I cheating the system if I choose not to pull off the highway and gas up at the gas station that was advertised on the sign right before the off-ramp? All of these things are equivalent, yet big tech has convinced you one is not like the others.

fragmede 3y ago
I think it's more like if your car has screens for windows, and puts a black box over every billboard so you don't see them and don't know there's a gas station. In all the cases you presented, you're still seeing the advertisement. Seeing the Grammerly ad before a YouTube video doesn't create an obligation for you to install the plugin either, what's important to Google is that you saw it in the first place.