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I make music mostly for fun and my m1 is barely keeping up with Logic Pro and the plugins I'm running, which are amp sims, various typical mixing plugins, and v

by pg5 3y ago

I make music mostly for fun and my m1 is barely keeping up with Logic Pro and the plugins I'm running, which are amp sims, various typical mixing plugins, and virtual drums. I'm not even using a crazy number of tracks at any given moment.

mnw21cam 3y ago
Given that a 7MHz Amiga 500 could mix eight tracks in CPU in real time, this is a very sad state of affairs. Your M1 is how many thousand times faster?
- troupe 3y ago
  Are you sure that what the Amiga was doing with 8 tracks is equivalent to what Logic is doing? I'd guess there is more to compare than just the number of tracks involved.
  - uticus 3y ago
    Yes but I think there's a point: hardware horsepower is undoubtedly capable of handling such workloads. I'm not knocking on Logic, but for 'fun' projects especially I find it impossible to believe that the hardware listed is the problem.
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- redwall_hp 3y ago
  VSTs didn't even exist when Amgias were relevant. Each of those tracks was not running a virtual synthesizer, convolutional reverb, parametric EQ, compressor, amp sim, etc.. A modern DAW is simulating an entire studio worth of hardware, not just an eight channel mixer. One of these laptops can mix hundreds of tracks without issue; it's the plugins that require more power.
- pg5 3y ago
  There's a chance it's a logic bug or one plugin having some issues, I suppose
  - smolder 3y ago
    All plugins are certainly not made equal. Some I've used are surprisingly bad performance-wise for what they do, while others are just genuinely computation-heavy.
gessha 3y ago
Did you have an Intel Mac before? If so, did you have the same workflow with the same amount of plugins or did you expand your usage based on the laptop capabilities? Just curious about “workflow creep” because I’m wondering if I should get an M[1..9].
TheCleric 3y ago
My rule for Logic Pro is that it will expand to make any computer you run it on "just barely keep up".

by pg5 3y ago

mnw21cam 3y ago

Given that a 7MHz Amiga 500 could mix eight tracks in CPU in real time, this is a very sad state of affairs. Your M1 is how many thousand times faster?

troupe 3y ago
Are you sure that what the Amiga was doing with 8 tracks is equivalent to what Logic is doing? I'd guess there is more to compare than just the number of tracks involved.
- uticus 3y ago
  Yes but I think there's a point: hardware horsepower is undoubtedly capable of handling such workloads. I'm not knocking on Logic, but for 'fun' projects especially I find it impossible to believe that the hardware listed is the problem.
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redwall_hp 3y ago
VSTs didn't even exist when Amgias were relevant. Each of those tracks was not running a virtual synthesizer, convolutional reverb, parametric EQ, compressor, amp sim, etc.. A modern DAW is simulating an entire studio worth of hardware, not just an eight channel mixer. One of these laptops can mix hundreds of tracks without issue; it's the plugins that require more power.
pg5 3y ago
There's a chance it's a logic bug or one plugin having some issues, I suppose
- smolder 3y ago
  All plugins are certainly not made equal. Some I've used are surprisingly bad performance-wise for what they do, while others are just genuinely computation-heavy.

gessha 3y ago

Did you have an Intel Mac before? If so, did you have the same workflow with the same amount of plugins or did you expand your usage based on the laptop capabilities? Just curious about “workflow creep” because I’m wondering if I should get an M[1..9].

TheCleric 3y ago

My rule for Logic Pro is that it will expand to make any computer you run it on "just barely keep up".