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Curious about this and I just download it. Want to try uncensored models. I have a question, looking for the most popular "uncensored" model I just find "TheB

Curious about this and I just download it. Want to try uncensored models. I have a question, looking for the most popular "uncensored" model I just find "TheBloke/Luna-AI-Llama2-Uncensored-GGML", but it has 14 files to download between 2 to 7 GB, I just download the first one: https://imgur.com/a/DE2byOB https://imgur.com/a/DE2byOB I try the model and it works: https://imgur.com/a/2vtPcui https://imgur.com/a/2vtPcui I should download all the 14 files to get better results? Also, asking how to make a bomb it looks that at least this model isn't "uncesored": https://imgur.com/a/iYz7VYQ https://imgur.com/a/iYz7VYQ

jwblackwell 3y ago
basically no open source fine tunes are censored, you can get an idea of popular models people are using here: https://openrouter.ai/models?o=top-weekly https://openrouter.ai/models?o=top-weekly teknium/openhermes-2.5-mistral-7b is a good one You don't need all 14 files, just pick one that is recommended with a slight loss of quality - hover over the little (i)icon to find out
- pentagrama 3y ago
  Thank you! Now I checked the (i) tooltips. Just downloaded the bigger file (7GB) that says "Minimal loss of quality".
nerdenough 3y ago
The readme of their repositories each have tables that detail the quality of each file. The QK_4_M and QK_5_M seem to be the two main recommended ones for low quality loss while too being too large. Only need 1 of the files, but recommend checking out the GGUF version of the model (just replace GGML in the URL) instead of GGML. Llama.cpp no longer supports GGML, and not sure if TheBloke still uploads new GGML versions of models.
0xEF 3y ago
Honest question from someone new to exploring and using these models; why do you need uncensored? What are the use-cases that would call for it? Again, not questioning your motives or anything, just straight up curious. To use your example, any of us can find bomb building info online fairly easily, and has been a point of social contention since the Anarchist's cookbook. Nobody needs an uncensored LLM for that, of course.
- xcv123 3y ago
  For the entertainment value
- lloydatkinson 3y ago
  It’s very easy to hit absurd “moral” limits on chatgpt for the most stupid things. Earlier I was looking for “a phrase that is used as an insult for someone who writes with too much rambling” and all I got was some bullshit about how it’s sorry but it can’t do that because it’s allegedly against its OpenAI rules. So I asked again “a phrase negatively used to mean someone that writes too much while rambling” and it worked. I simply cannot be bothered to deal with stupid insipid “corporate friendly language” and other dumb restrictions. Imagine having a real conversation with someone and they freaked out any time anything negative was discussed? TLDR: Thought police ruining LLMs
- pentagrama 3y ago
  Curiosity and entertainment. Also have an experience that isn't available on the current popular consumer products like this.
- CamperBob2 3y ago
  None of your business.
- rgbrgb 3y ago
  perhaps they are in a war zone and must learn to make molotov cocktails without connecting to the internet
- OJFord 3y ago
  Where do you typically have the 'safe search' setting when you web search? Personally I have it 'off' ('moderate' when I worked in an office I think) even though I'm not looking for anything that ought to be filtered by it. I'm not using models censored or otherwise, but I imagine I'd feel the same way there - I won't be offended, so don't try to be too clever, just give me the unfiltered results and let me decide what's correct. (Bing AI actually banned me for trying to generate images a rough likeness of myself by combining traits of minor celebrities - in combination it shouldn't have looked like those people either, so I don't think should violate ToS, certainly it didn't in intention (I wanted myself, but it doesn't know what I look like and I couldn't provide a photo at the time, idk if you can now (banned!)) so it does happen, 'false positive censoring' if you like.)
mark_l_watson 3y ago
No, each download is just a different quantization of the same model.

jwblackwell 3y ago

basically no open source fine tunes are censored, you can get an idea of popular models people are using here: https://openrouter.ai/models?o=top-weekly https://openrouter.ai/models?o=top-weekly teknium/openhermes-2.5-mistral-7b is a good one You don't need all 14 files, just pick one that is recommended with a slight loss of quality - hover over the little (i)icon to find out

pentagrama 3y ago
Thank you! Now I checked the (i) tooltips. Just downloaded the bigger file (7GB) that says "Minimal loss of quality".

nerdenough 3y ago

The readme of their repositories each have tables that detail the quality of each file. The QK_4_M and QK_5_M seem to be the two main recommended ones for low quality loss while too being too large. Only need 1 of the files, but recommend checking out the GGUF version of the model (just replace GGML in the URL) instead of GGML. Llama.cpp no longer supports GGML, and not sure if TheBloke still uploads new GGML versions of models.

0xEF 3y ago

Honest question from someone new to exploring and using these models; why do you need uncensored? What are the use-cases that would call for it? Again, not questioning your motives or anything, just straight up curious. To use your example, any of us can find bomb building info online fairly easily, and has been a point of social contention since the Anarchist's cookbook. Nobody needs an uncensored LLM for that, of course.

xcv123 3y ago
For the entertainment value
lloydatkinson 3y ago
It’s very easy to hit absurd “moral” limits on chatgpt for the most stupid things. Earlier I was looking for “a phrase that is used as an insult for someone who writes with too much rambling” and all I got was some bullshit about how it’s sorry but it can’t do that because it’s allegedly against its OpenAI rules. So I asked again “a phrase negatively used to mean someone that writes too much while rambling” and it worked. I simply cannot be bothered to deal with stupid insipid “corporate friendly language” and other dumb restrictions. Imagine having a real conversation with someone and they freaked out any time anything negative was discussed? TLDR: Thought police ruining LLMs
pentagrama 3y ago
Curiosity and entertainment. Also have an experience that isn't available on the current popular consumer products like this.
CamperBob2 3y ago
None of your business.
rgbrgb 3y ago
perhaps they are in a war zone and must learn to make molotov cocktails without connecting to the internet
OJFord 3y ago
Where do you typically have the 'safe search' setting when you web search? Personally I have it 'off' ('moderate' when I worked in an office I think) even though I'm not looking for anything that ought to be filtered by it. I'm not using models censored or otherwise, but I imagine I'd feel the same way there - I won't be offended, so don't try to be too clever, just give me the unfiltered results and let me decide what's correct. (Bing AI actually banned me for trying to generate images a rough likeness of myself by combining traits of minor celebrities - in combination it shouldn't have looked like those people either, so I don't think should violate ToS, certainly it didn't in intention (I wanted myself, but it doesn't know what I look like and I couldn't provide a photo at the time, idk if you can now (banned!)) so it does happen, 'false positive censoring' if you like.)

mark_l_watson 3y ago

No, each download is just a different quantization of the same model.