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The bit about PG and Altman parting ways is interesting I wonder if anyone wants to share more :).
by CartyBoston 3y ago
The bit about PG and Altman parting ways is interesting I wonder if anyone wants to share more :).
- helsinkiandrew 3y agoHadn't seen the tweet from Geoffrey Irving before: https://twitter.com/geoffreyirving/status/1726754270224023971 https://twitter.com/geoffreyirving/status/172675427022402397... > 1. He was always nice to me. > 2. He lied to me on various occasions > 3. He was deceptive, manipulative, and worse to others, including my close friends (again, only nice to me, for reasons)
- rwmj 3y agoLike an AI then.
- xrd 3y agoIt's a very strongly worded statement. Given how connected Altman is, it's very interesting that Irving would publicly state this. It's either very courageous and in service to changing silicon valley, or also very manipulative and in service of benefiting his company. It feels like it could be both. I'm left feeling like there are no angels here. (That's actually funny given how investors love to call themselves angels.) In the end it appears Altman has looked out for himself above all else, which probably enrages his mentors and investors who don't like to lose control, including pg.
- ethbr1 3y agoIt's difficult to conceptualize someone who is ruthless, self-interested, and skilled enough to overcome all problems... except your control over them. Eventually they look at you and decide you're the problem to be overcome. Might not happen for a while, but inevitably will.
- twic 3y agoAre you talking about Sam or an AGI?
- ethbr1 3y agoMaybe.
- PeterisP 3y agoNicely worded, but with regard to the OpenAI conflict I wonder if you intended this to be about Sam Altman or the topic of (G)AI safety or both?
- CSMastermind 3y agoThis is incredibly well put and not something I've seen articulated so clearly before.
- theGnuMe 3y agoYou've got a few billionaire teams in silicon valley not unlike say the NFL. Team DeepMind Team Google Team Meta Team YC Team OpenAI Team Microsoft Team nVIDIA Team VC Team Thiel There are probably more...
- pdonis 3y ago> I'm left feeling like there are no angels here. That's my feeling after watching all this play out over the last few days. I don't trust any of these people to be good stewards of anything that is supposed to benefit humanity.
- bmitc 3y agoHe said it in the Tweet that it was because people were attacking people, such as Helen Toner, that he knows to be good people.
- coliveira 3y agoThis is the kind of person we have controlling the future of AI. He and Elon Musk. Between these two we are assured complete destruction.
- objektif 3y agoWhat is wrong with Musk again?
- nullindividual 3y agoThat’s a rhetorical question, correct?
- bmitc 3y agoHe personally does not like the color yellow, so he required it not used in safety contexts just because of that. So he put workers' safety at risk because he may have to see pictures or tour the area once every quarter. There are more stories like this ad nauseum. Or, you could just read his Twitter feed.
- machdiamonds 3y agoYou guys just believe whatever you read. Things that can easily be debunked with common sense. For example, there's a lot of yellow in this factory tour he did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr9kK0_7x08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr9kK0_7x08
- bmitc 3y agoI indeed see fairly minimal safety colors and patterns in that video. I don't know where you see "a lot". And you do realize that there have been investigative journalists, federal inspections, and lawsuits regarding this? So all those people are just making it all up so that I can just believe whatever I read?
- VeejayRampay 3y ago
- rsynnott 3y agoI don’t see how 1 and 2 are compatible unless you have a really weird definition of ‘nice’.
- FireBeyond 3y agoI think it'd be more accurate to substitute 'polite' or 'courteous' than 'nice'.