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So, the only two women were removed from the board, and two ultra-alpha males were brought on. And everybody is cheering it on as the right thing to do! Not ju

So, the only two women were removed from the board, and two ultra-alpha males were brought on. And everybody is cheering it on as the right thing to do! Not judging, just observing.

huytersd 3y ago
It’s definitely the right thing to do. Those women had “qualifications” in a made up field with no real world relevance that aimed to halt progress on AI work. We are no where close to a paradigm where AI takes over the world or whatever.
lucubratory 3y ago
And Larry Summers believes that women are genetically inferior to men at science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. A lot of the techbro hate that was directed specifically at Helen is openly misogynistic, which is actually pretty funny because Larry Summers was probably who Helen was eventually happy with because of their shared natsec connections.
- maxdoop 3y ago
  Is there any way to disagree with Helen and not be misogynistic in your view? How would that look?
  - lucubratory 3y ago
    Disagree with her or her actions without falsely claiming that she has no qualifications or understanding of AI and therefore no business being on the board in the first place? It is not hard at all to do so, and many people did.
    - maxdoop 3y ago
      Do you think people said she has no qualifications because she is a woman, or is it possible people say that because her resume is quite short ? It seems like people taking such comments as misogynistic are actually projecting misogyny into the situation, rather than the reverse. If you showed me her resume and put “Steven Smith” stop the paper, I’d say that person isn’t qualified to be running the board of a 90 billion dollar company in charge of guiding research on some of the most groundbreaking new tech in years.
c0pium 3y ago
> Not judging I wonder if this has ever been said truthfully?
- auggierose 3y ago
  You don't have to wonder anymore! You replied to an example of it.
maxdoop 3y ago
Oh, cmon. Why must people reach like this? How about we look at credentials, merit, and consensus as opposed to “what gender are they?”
- auggierose 3y ago
  I am sure Larry Summers is highly qualified for this job. Would have been very hard to find a willing woman with his qualifications.
  - maxdoop 3y ago
    Why does being a man or woman even matter? Do we really need a DEI hire for the board of some of the most groundbreaking tech in years? I’m not saying Larry Summers has some perfect resume for the job; but to assume he was brought on BECAUSE he is man? Cmon. There’s absolutely no evidence for that and you are just projecting an issue into the situation, rather than it being of any reality.
    - auggierose 3y ago
      I think you are the one projecting. I am just presenting facts. There is also nobody black on the board, by the way. I don't think that is a problem, but it is what it is. Now this "initial board", tasked with establishing the rest of the board, for a company that wants to create AGI for the benefit of humanity, consists of three white alpha-males. That's just a fact. Is it a coincidence? Of course not.
ahzhou 3y ago
I was thinking about this too, but the wife of an actor and someone two years out of her masters were not the caliber people that should have been on the board of an $80B company. I would expect people with backgrounds like Sheryl Sandberg or Dr. Lisa Sue to sit in the position. The two replaced women would have looked like diversity hires had they not been affiliated with an AI doomer organization. I hope there’s diversity of representation as they fill out the rest of the board and there’s certainly women who have the credentials, but it’s important that they don’t appear grossly unqualified when they sit next to the other board members.
- galoisscobi 3y ago
  Sheryl Sandberg’s sense of ethics and moral compass are highly questionable.

So, the only two women were removed from the board, and two ultra-alpha males were brought on. And everybody is cheering it on as the right thing to do! Not judging, just observing.

huytersd 3y ago

It’s definitely the right thing to do. Those women had “qualifications” in a made up field with no real world relevance that aimed to halt progress on AI work. We are no where close to a paradigm where AI takes over the world or whatever.

lucubratory 3y ago

And Larry Summers believes that women are genetically inferior to men at science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. A lot of the techbro hate that was directed specifically at Helen is openly misogynistic, which is actually pretty funny because Larry Summers was probably who Helen was eventually happy with because of their shared natsec connections.

maxdoop 3y ago
Is there any way to disagree with Helen and not be misogynistic in your view? How would that look?
- lucubratory 3y ago
  Disagree with her or her actions without falsely claiming that she has no qualifications or understanding of AI and therefore no business being on the board in the first place? It is not hard at all to do so, and many people did.
  - maxdoop 3y ago
    Do you think people said she has no qualifications because she is a woman, or is it possible people say that because her resume is quite short ? It seems like people taking such comments as misogynistic are actually projecting misogyny into the situation, rather than the reverse. If you showed me her resume and put “Steven Smith” stop the paper, I’d say that person isn’t qualified to be running the board of a 90 billion dollar company in charge of guiding research on some of the most groundbreaking new tech in years.

c0pium 3y ago

> Not judging I wonder if this has ever been said truthfully?

auggierose 3y ago
You don't have to wonder anymore! You replied to an example of it.

maxdoop 3y ago

Oh, cmon. Why must people reach like this? How about we look at credentials, merit, and consensus as opposed to “what gender are they?”

auggierose 3y ago
I am sure Larry Summers is highly qualified for this job. Would have been very hard to find a willing woman with his qualifications.
- maxdoop 3y ago
  Why does being a man or woman even matter? Do we really need a DEI hire for the board of some of the most groundbreaking tech in years? I’m not saying Larry Summers has some perfect resume for the job; but to assume he was brought on BECAUSE he is man? Cmon. There’s absolutely no evidence for that and you are just projecting an issue into the situation, rather than it being of any reality.
  - auggierose 3y ago
    I think you are the one projecting. I am just presenting facts. There is also nobody black on the board, by the way. I don't think that is a problem, but it is what it is. Now this "initial board", tasked with establishing the rest of the board, for a company that wants to create AGI for the benefit of humanity, consists of three white alpha-males. That's just a fact. Is it a coincidence? Of course not.

ahzhou 3y ago

I was thinking about this too, but the wife of an actor and someone two years out of her masters were not the caliber people that should have been on the board of an $80B company. I would expect people with backgrounds like Sheryl Sandberg or Dr. Lisa Sue to sit in the position. The two replaced women would have looked like diversity hires had they not been affiliated with an AI doomer organization. I hope there’s diversity of representation as they fill out the rest of the board and there’s certainly women who have the credentials, but it’s important that they don’t appear grossly unqualified when they sit next to the other board members.

galoisscobi 3y ago
Sheryl Sandberg’s sense of ethics and moral compass are highly questionable.