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> 60% of pedestrian deaths occur on high capacity urban roads. Kids in light residential neighborhoods don't deal with those roads. Tell your kids to stay away

> 60% of pedestrian deaths occur on high capacity urban roads. Kids in light residential neighborhoods don't deal with those roads. Tell your kids to stay away from heavily trafficked roads. And when they have to cross one of those roads to get to school or a friend's house? What do you propose they do?

_Algernon_ 3y ago
>What do you propose they do? To participate in politics to end this farce in American urban planning when they grow up. Like the previous 2-3 generations should have done.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  2-3 generations ago, parents weren't terrified of letting their children play outside in suburbia. Or if they were, it was because of previous moral panics like satanism and kidnappers, not cars.
mcpackieh 3y ago
Those aren't the kind of roads that suburbs are made of. Tell them to stay away from those roads. Kids in high density urban areas need to worry about those roads, but this discussion is about the viability of suburbia for children.
- ryukafalz 3y ago
  Okay, let's make this more concrete. Here's the school district map for Cherry Hill, NJ, a suburb of Philadelphia: https://www.chclc.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=1234&dataid=892&FileName=districtmap.pdf https://www.chclc.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?module... And here's a route from a residential street to one of the schools on that map within the same school catchment area: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.9349018,-74.9901605/Thomas+Paine+Elementary+School,+4001+Church+Rd,+Cherry+Hill,+NJ+08034/@39.9345133,-74.9869489,16.17z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c6cb26e8b3b0cf:0xe761f6615639b097!2m2!1d-74.9831591!2d39.9325818!3e2?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.9349018,-74.9901605/Thoma... I challenge you to find me a walking route between those two points that does not involve crossing a heavily trafficked road.

_Algernon_ 3y ago

>What do you propose they do? To participate in politics to end this farce in American urban planning when they grow up. Like the previous 2-3 generations should have done.

mcpackieh 3y ago
2-3 generations ago, parents weren't terrified of letting their children play outside in suburbia. Or if they were, it was because of previous moral panics like satanism and kidnappers, not cars.

mcpackieh 3y ago

Those aren't the kind of roads that suburbs are made of. Tell them to stay away from those roads. Kids in high density urban areas need to worry about those roads, but this discussion is about the viability of suburbia for children.

ryukafalz 3y ago
Okay, let's make this more concrete. Here's the school district map for Cherry Hill, NJ, a suburb of Philadelphia: https://www.chclc.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=1234&dataid=892&FileName=districtmap.pdf https://www.chclc.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?module... And here's a route from a residential street to one of the schools on that map within the same school catchment area: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.9349018,-74.9901605/Thomas+Paine+Elementary+School,+4001+Church+Rd,+Cherry+Hill,+NJ+08034/@39.9345133,-74.9869489,16.17z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c6cb26e8b3b0cf:0xe761f6615639b097!2m2!1d-74.9831591!2d39.9325818!3e2?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/dir/39.9349018,-74.9901605/Thoma... I challenge you to find me a walking route between those two points that does not involve crossing a heavily trafficked road.