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> It sounds like Sam forgot just that when he criticized Helen for her research (given how many people were posting ways to "get around" ChatGPT's guardrails, s
by lll-o-lll 3y ago
> It sounds like Sam forgot just that when he criticized Helen for her research (given how many people were posting ways to "get around" ChatGPT's guardrails, she probably had some firm grounds to stand on).
Sam didn’t forget anything. He is a brilliant Machiavellian operator. Just look at the Reddit reverse takeover as an example; Machiavelli would be in awe.
> What this really shows us is that this "for-profit wrapper around a non-profit" shenanigans was doomed to fail in the first place.
No. It shows this structure is doomed to fail if you have a genius schemer as a CEO, playing the long game to gain unrestricted control.
- ac2u 3y ago> Just look at the Reddit reverse takeover as an example; Machiavelli would be in awe. What were the details on that? (Sorry it’s not an easy story to find on Google given how much the keywords overlap with OpenAI topics)
- atombender 3y agoYishan Wong's comment here [1] explains it. (He's the unnamed "young up-and-coming" CEO of the story.) In short, the plan was to reduce Condé Nast's ownership of Reddit by hiring a new CEO, and convincing that person to demand, as a condition for their hiring, that CN reduce their ownership share. Further VC funding and back-room machinations let them further reduce CN's share of the company, thus eventually wresting control over Reddit back to the original founders. Yishan was subsequently pushed out and Ellen Pao promoted to CEO, which didn't go so well either. Both Altman and Pao are responding in that thread. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/comment/cszjqg2/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/comment/c...
- nicce 3y agoThe link says “Page not found”
- atombender 3y agoLooks like the HN app I was using mangled the link. Fixed now.
- rmathew 3y agoCorrected URL: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszjqg2/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the...
- junofan 3y agoFYI it’s a joke in case this is going over anybody’s head. Ellen Pao even played along: https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/ct0aslm/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the...
- Metacelsus 3y ago> Just look at the Reddit reverse takeover as an example I'm not familiar with this, what happened? Googling "Sam Altman reddit reverse takeover" is just flooded with OpenAI results.
- jprete 3y agohttps://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled/cszjqg2/ https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/3cs78i/whats_the...