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I would not say that it is fair comparison in this case. People do the best with the control they have. In this case, if your company fails to provide for grea

by nicce 3y ago

I would not say that it is fair comparison in this case. People do the best with the control they have. In this case, if your company fails to provide for greater good, then it is best to destroy it. And it also shows some example to others. Whatever others do, you have no power. I does not matter if you pretent or not. Comparison works only if you could do something about it.

jacquesm 3y ago
Yes, but then maybe you should realize that you are out of your depth and abstain. Because clear as day this kind of power is actively being sought by many operators and if OpenAI was 'the good guys' then any chance of the good guys getting a head start has just been blown out of the water. If she agreed with the Microsoft deal but not with what followed that too would be hopelessly naive. Microsoft + ethics?
- nicce 3y ago
  > If she agreed with the Microsoft deal but not with what followed that too would be hopelessly naive. Microsoft + ethics? I guess the main problem here is that nobody knows properly what this deal contains and how it was made. I believe CEO has power to do such deal alone?
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    That depends on the mandate. He would bind the company but it is possible that his mandate specifically forbids deals that include either IP or exclusivity. But what is interesting is that until MS got involved OpenAI was struggling for funding and talent, and afterwards it took off like a rocket.
    - nicce 3y ago
      I think the talent was already there but the power of Azure servers was the critical booster. We don’t even know how much Microsoft has actually paid instead of just counting Azure credits.
      - jacquesm 3y ago
        Yes, Nadella has a point: without MS OpenAI wouldn't be where it is today, but the reverse is also true: without OpenAI MS wouldn't be where it is today.
- Davidzheng 3y ago
  There are no good guys only good deeds

by nicce 3y ago

jacquesm 3y ago

Yes, but then maybe you should realize that you are out of your depth and abstain. Because clear as day this kind of power is actively being sought by many operators and if OpenAI was 'the good guys' then any chance of the good guys getting a head start has just been blown out of the water. If she agreed with the Microsoft deal but not with what followed that too would be hopelessly naive. Microsoft + ethics?

nicce 3y ago
> If she agreed with the Microsoft deal but not with what followed that too would be hopelessly naive. Microsoft + ethics? I guess the main problem here is that nobody knows properly what this deal contains and how it was made. I believe CEO has power to do such deal alone?
- jacquesm 3y ago
  That depends on the mandate. He would bind the company but it is possible that his mandate specifically forbids deals that include either IP or exclusivity. But what is interesting is that until MS got involved OpenAI was struggling for funding and talent, and afterwards it took off like a rocket.
  - nicce 3y ago
    I think the talent was already there but the power of Azure servers was the critical booster. We don’t even know how much Microsoft has actually paid instead of just counting Azure credits.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      Yes, Nadella has a point: without MS OpenAI wouldn't be where it is today, but the reverse is also true: without OpenAI MS wouldn't be where it is today.
Davidzheng 3y ago
There are no good guys only good deeds