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Finally I'll be able to read posts on HN! I know it's "against the rules" or "uninteresting" or whatever to comment about this sort of thing on HN posts, but I

Finally I'll be able to read posts on HN! I know it's "against the rules" or "uninteresting" or whatever to comment about this sort of thing on HN posts, but I'm getting real tired of 3/4 of the HN posts being paid bullshit I'm not allowed to read. Even the archived links people post in the comments are inaccessible because CloudFlare. I fail to see how paid articles adhere to the HN spirit of "interesting discussions" or whatever the exact rule is. These paid articles are more detrimental to "interest" than angry political yelling.

gruez 3y ago
>Even the archived links people post in the comments are inaccessible because CloudFlare. Actually it's not caused by cloudflare on two counts: cloudflare actually isn't a source of the captcha, the site author copied cloudflare's captcha page; and the site blocks cloudflare dns users because it doesn't send EDNS information.
- josephcsible 3y ago
  > cloudflare actually isn't a source of the captcha, the site author copied cloudflare's captcha page Why hasn't Cloudflare sued for trademark infringement?
  - gruez 3y ago
    If you look carefully it doesn't have cloudflare's logo or claim it's from cloudflare. It just vaguely looks like cloudflare's page that most people assume it's the cloudflare captcha.
LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago
I'm so tired of reading this over and over again. Do you need/use cloudflare for anything else besides their DNS? If not you can simply switch to https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls/ https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls/
sexy_seedbox 3y ago
Use Quad9 DNS
tzs 3y ago
> I fail to see how paid articles adhere to the HN spirit of "interesting discussions" or whatever the exact rule is. These paid articles are more detrimental to "interest" than angry political yelling. For probably 90% of the paywalled articles the discussion is interesting even if you don't read the article. First, the discussions often diverge from what is covered in the article. Second, even the parts of the discussion that haven't diverged often include enough context to figure out broadly what the article was saying.
shiroiuma 3y ago
Many times, some helpful person posts a comment with a link to the same article, sans paywall, on archive.org.
- markx2 3y ago
  And if they do not, use this bookmarklet javascript:void(open('https://archive.today/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location)))
  - gxvwb 3y ago
    The archive.today method has always worked best for me. I made a Firefox Add-On to do it automatically for sites I encounter regularly: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/surmount/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/surmount/
carlosjobim 3y ago
> paid bullshit Why do you want to read bullshit?

gruez 3y ago

>Even the archived links people post in the comments are inaccessible because CloudFlare. Actually it's not caused by cloudflare on two counts: cloudflare actually isn't a source of the captcha, the site author copied cloudflare's captcha page; and the site blocks cloudflare dns users because it doesn't send EDNS information.

josephcsible 3y ago
> cloudflare actually isn't a source of the captcha, the site author copied cloudflare's captcha page Why hasn't Cloudflare sued for trademark infringement?
- gruez 3y ago
  If you look carefully it doesn't have cloudflare's logo or claim it's from cloudflare. It just vaguely looks like cloudflare's page that most people assume it's the cloudflare captcha.

LargoLasskhyfv 3y ago

I'm so tired of reading this over and over again. Do you need/use cloudflare for anything else besides their DNS? If not you can simply switch to https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls/ https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls/

sexy_seedbox 3y ago

Use Quad9 DNS

tzs 3y ago

> I fail to see how paid articles adhere to the HN spirit of "interesting discussions" or whatever the exact rule is. These paid articles are more detrimental to "interest" than angry political yelling. For probably 90% of the paywalled articles the discussion is interesting even if you don't read the article. First, the discussions often diverge from what is covered in the article. Second, even the parts of the discussion that haven't diverged often include enough context to figure out broadly what the article was saying.

shiroiuma 3y ago

Many times, some helpful person posts a comment with a link to the same article, sans paywall, on archive.org.

markx2 3y ago
And if they do not, use this bookmarklet javascript:void(open('https://archive.today/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location)))
- gxvwb 3y ago
  The archive.today method has always worked best for me. I made a Firefox Add-On to do it automatically for sites I encounter regularly: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/surmount/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/surmount/

carlosjobim 3y ago

> paid bullshit Why do you want to read bullshit?