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And yet workers in those societies tend to end up poorer in the absolute sense. Funny how that works.

• dontlaugh 3y ago
  If you pay attention to history, they started out far poorer and improved quicker than in comparable countries. Just because revolutions are more likely to happen in poor countries doesn't mean the revolutions caused the poverty.
  • lovecg 3y ago
    That’s fair but I’d like to believe (and I know I’m speaking from emotion here and not any rationality) that the jury is still out on this one, and that improvement is not sustainable over the next few decades (in other words, this was a bubble). The alternative is just too hard to accept - it means we should just elect a dictator for life who knows best how to run a centrally planned economy for a low low price of not making fun of them too much and not asking inconvenient questions.
    • dontlaugh 3y ago
      If you study further you will find out that socialist countries are and have been far more democratic than capitalist ones. Of course, the ruling class of capitalist countries are incentivised to use their considerable power to lie about any socialist project and portray it as evil.
      • lovecg 3y ago
        I grew up in a socialist country and saw how democratic it was first hand. No thanks.
        • dontlaugh 3y ago
          I grew up in a post-socialist country. Most older people had some criticism, but overall missed socialism. I always found it amazing to hear about workplace councils that could fire the boss or the very low rents.