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> chatbots encouraging the humans to spend more money ... LLMs absolutely need some restrictions on their use. No, I can honestly say that I do not lose any sl

> chatbots encouraging the humans to spend more money ... LLMs absolutely need some restrictions on their use. No, I can honestly say that I do not lose any sleep over this, and I think it's pretty weird that you do. Humans have been fending off human advertisers and scammers since the dawn of the species. We're better at it than you account for.

motoxpro 3y ago
In 2022, reported consumer losses to fraud totaled $8.8 billion — a 30 percent increase from 2021, according to the most recent data from the Federal Trade Commission. The biggest losses were to investment scams, including cryptocurrency schemes, which cost people more than $3.8 billion, double the amount in 2021. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/people-are-losing-money-scammers-ever-keep-safe-rcna99195 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/people-are-losing-... The data says we are not that good and getting 30% worse every year.
- benrow 3y ago
  Furthermore "If it were measured as a country, then cybercrime — which is predicted to inflict damages totaling $6 trillion USD globally in 2021 — would be the world’s third-largest economy after the U.S. and China." https://cybersecurityventures.com/hackerpocalypse-cybercrime-report-2016/ https://cybersecurityventures.com/hackerpocalypse-cybercrime...
- miohtama 3y ago
  To put this number $8B to context, the estimate COVID-19 relief fund fraud in the US is $200B https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/new-federal-estimate-finds-more-than-200-billion-in-covid-19-aid-may-have-been-stolen https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/new-federal-estimate-fi... US tax fraud is estimated to be $1 trillion a year https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-13/tax-cheats-are-costing-the-us-1-trillion-a-year-irs-estimates https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-13/tax-cheats...
  - aCoreyJ 3y ago
    Yea the point is the people losing the 8B are not the people saving the 1 trillion, or getting most of the Covid relief
- stickfigure 3y ago
  US GDP in 2022 was $25.46 trillion. $8.8 billion is 0.03% of that economic activity. Honestly, that seems like a pretty good success rate.
15457345234 3y ago
> We're better at it Huge numbers of people are absolutely terrible at it and routinely get rinsed out like rags.

motoxpro 3y ago

In 2022, reported consumer losses to fraud totaled $8.8 billion — a 30 percent increase from 2021, according to the most recent data from the Federal Trade Commission. The biggest losses were to investment scams, including cryptocurrency schemes, which cost people more than $3.8 billion, double the amount in 2021. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/people-are-losing-money-scammers-ever-keep-safe-rcna99195 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/people-are-losing-... The data says we are not that good and getting 30% worse every year.

benrow 3y ago
Furthermore "If it were measured as a country, then cybercrime — which is predicted to inflict damages totaling $6 trillion USD globally in 2021 — would be the world’s third-largest economy after the U.S. and China." https://cybersecurityventures.com/hackerpocalypse-cybercrime-report-2016/ https://cybersecurityventures.com/hackerpocalypse-cybercrime...
miohtama 3y ago
To put this number $8B to context, the estimate COVID-19 relief fund fraud in the US is $200B https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/new-federal-estimate-finds-more-than-200-billion-in-covid-19-aid-may-have-been-stolen https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/new-federal-estimate-fi... US tax fraud is estimated to be $1 trillion a year https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-13/tax-cheats-are-costing-the-us-1-trillion-a-year-irs-estimates https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-13/tax-cheats...
- aCoreyJ 3y ago
  Yea the point is the people losing the 8B are not the people saving the 1 trillion, or getting most of the Covid relief
stickfigure 3y ago
US GDP in 2022 was $25.46 trillion. $8.8 billion is 0.03% of that economic activity. Honestly, that seems like a pretty good success rate.

15457345234 3y ago

> We're better at it Huge numbers of people are absolutely terrible at it and routinely get rinsed out like rags.