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The fact the new CEO can't even get answers from the board is quite telling. Looks like the OpenAI board wants those investor lawsuits. And allegedly the Quora

The fact the new CEO can't even get answers from the board is quite telling. Looks like the OpenAI board wants those investor lawsuits. And allegedly the Quora guy Adam D'Angelo is the ringleader of all this?

newsclues 3y ago
Or Dustin Moskovitz, it seems many of the board members may be linked to him
- reducesuffering 3y ago
  No https://www.threads.net/@moskov/post/Cz482XgJBN0?hl=en https://www.threads.net/@moskov/post/Cz482XgJBN0?hl=en "A few folks sent me a Hacker News comment speculating I was involved in the OpenAI conflict. Totally false. I was as surprised as anyone Friday, and still don’t know what happened."
cpncrunch 3y ago
I'm not sure if lawsuits against the non-profit will be possible, as the investors didn't invest in it. More likely, making public the facts behind who was responsible for the shenanigans and what evidence they had (if any), combined with pressure from employees, will force their hand.
GreedClarifies 3y ago
There is no evidence that Adam is the ringleader. All four are possible ringleaders. Given Ilya's change of heart he is slightly less probable as the ringleader.
- quocble 3y ago
  Adam runs a clone of chatgpt (poe platform). It's right there on his Twitter account. Isnt this conflict of interest and motive?
  - HPMOR 3y ago
    yes, yes it is.
  - m3kw9 3y ago
    First the board allowed the For profit corp to form, and now is firing the guy that did it. Second, they allow a board member to build a competing startup. What kind of AI safty/alignment/save the world crap is that?
- passwordoops 3y ago
  I have no evidence, but I do have faith that anyone who turned Quora into what it is today could totally be the ringleader of this clusterflack
- m3kw9 3y ago
  The detective from Knives Out would have solved this by now
- Ballas 3y ago
  > Given Ilya's change of heart he is slightly less probable as the ringleader. I tend to believe that was exactly his strategy with his change of heart...
abnry 3y ago
This whole saga has helped me see how rumors grow. (And I know you used the word allegedly, but still.) First it was Ilya who was the ringleader. Now it is Adam. There has been a small amount of new information (Ilya seems to have backtracked), but there is no real information to suggest Adam was a ring leader. It is the pure speculation of people trying to make sense of the whole thing.

newsclues 3y ago

Or Dustin Moskovitz, it seems many of the board members may be linked to him

reducesuffering 3y ago
No https://www.threads.net/@moskov/post/Cz482XgJBN0?hl=en https://www.threads.net/@moskov/post/Cz482XgJBN0?hl=en "A few folks sent me a Hacker News comment speculating I was involved in the OpenAI conflict. Totally false. I was as surprised as anyone Friday, and still don’t know what happened."

cpncrunch 3y ago

I'm not sure if lawsuits against the non-profit will be possible, as the investors didn't invest in it. More likely, making public the facts behind who was responsible for the shenanigans and what evidence they had (if any), combined with pressure from employees, will force their hand.

GreedClarifies 3y ago

There is no evidence that Adam is the ringleader. All four are possible ringleaders. Given Ilya's change of heart he is slightly less probable as the ringleader.

quocble 3y ago
Adam runs a clone of chatgpt (poe platform). It's right there on his Twitter account. Isnt this conflict of interest and motive?
- HPMOR 3y ago
  yes, yes it is.
- m3kw9 3y ago
  First the board allowed the For profit corp to form, and now is firing the guy that did it. Second, they allow a board member to build a competing startup. What kind of AI safty/alignment/save the world crap is that?
passwordoops 3y ago
I have no evidence, but I do have faith that anyone who turned Quora into what it is today could totally be the ringleader of this clusterflack
m3kw9 3y ago
The detective from Knives Out would have solved this by now
Ballas 3y ago
> Given Ilya's change of heart he is slightly less probable as the ringleader. I tend to believe that was exactly his strategy with his change of heart...

abnry 3y ago

This whole saga has helped me see how rumors grow. (And I know you used the word allegedly, but still.) First it was Ilya who was the ringleader. Now it is Adam. There has been a small amount of new information (Ilya seems to have backtracked), but there is no real information to suggest Adam was a ring leader. It is the pure speculation of people trying to make sense of the whole thing.