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I remember getting annoyed listening to my parents opine about why I stayed inside a lot without ever asking me, knowing I would be chastised if I dared to spea

by Kye 3y ago

I remember getting annoyed listening to my parents opine about why I stayed inside a lot without ever asking me, knowing I would be chastised if I dared to speak for myself. I enjoy a nice stroll in nature as an adult, but I would have been bored out of my mind as a kid. Sports never appealed, and treehouses are even more boring than sitting in a room with no internet. What I liked doing was mall walking, or walking through busy cities. But my parents would rarely take me to do that. So I was "lazy."

yieldcrv 3y ago
my parents thought I was a combination of introverted and not social I just could not be motivated to travel 40 minutes to an event, and Xbox Live was an equivalent surrogate Move on campus in the middle of things and I’m out almost every day. Keep everything in walking distance and I’m very social in person. We’ll see if suburbs ever appeal to me, more likely would have to be a reimagined version of the concept.
oh_sigh 3y ago
Yes, just going on a walk can be boring for a child, but you don't need to just walk through the woods. You can go exploring, dig for treasure, climb trees, play hide and seek, build a fort, etc.
- Kye 3y ago
  What hiking trail allows this? Going off-trail, digging, climbing, and building will all get you booted. These are natural environments where the trail is already a significant compromise to justify the preservation.
  - NegativeLatency 3y ago
    I had some experiences like this thanks to boy scouts, but it was on private land owned by another family for timber, or at a summer camp hardly an everyday thing though. Depending on what you're doing/season/location national forests allow gathering wood and stuff for building fires.
  - ratmice 3y ago
    There is a park in my neighborhood, half of which is designated as a nature play space. Where all those things are allowed, lots of forts. It appears it was associated with the national wildlife federation natural learning initiative. https://www.nwf.org/Kids-and-Family/Connecting-Kids-and-Nature/Nature-Play-Spaces https://www.nwf.org/Kids-and-Family/Connecting-Kids-and-Natu... Not sure if there is a list of such places though
    - prawn 3y ago
      Nature play spaces are common in Australian schools now. Logs, rocks, dirt. Kids make forts and grind up rocks and so on. 40 years ago at the same school, we had old car tyres to roll around.
  - defrost 3y ago
    I grew up in Northern Australia, later returned to raise my kids there, I'm back again with grand children. I literally cannot parse or make sense of your comment. Which is one indication of just how fundementally different various parts of the world are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmCX7R-W4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmCX7R-W4c
    - Symbiote 3y ago
      https://nt.gov.au/parks/safety-rules https://nt.gov.au/parks/safety-rules But I think there must be a misunderstanding, as it would be unusual for a place near suburbia to be a national park or similar area with restrictions like this.
      - defrost 3y ago
        There's nothing there I can see in the NT park rules that precludes digging or building a fort. Around the world some place back onto national parks, other places have large areas of undeveloped land that aren't national parks (cattle stations, community land, etc). The video I linked is representative of the kind of ocean land I grew up on and still live near part time - it's a good place to raise children, plenty to do.
    - oblio 3y ago
      Same, from Romania. If you hike you can more or less do anything you want along the way. The only thing "booting you" would probably be fatigue :-)))
  - jdminhbg 3y ago
    There are lots of trails that are not on protected wilderness areas.
- Broken_Hippo 3y ago
  These aren't things that everyone gets. And for the record: I could only climb trees if I didn't get caught, really. If I climbed trees, I might fall and get injured. (I did get injured once: a twig got stuck in my wrist (was a fairly minor injury). Hide and seek only works if you have friends around to play with. I had that during some of elementary school, but we moved before my siblings were similar ages and there weren't other kids around the same age.

by Kye 3y ago

yieldcrv 3y ago

my parents thought I was a combination of introverted and not social I just could not be motivated to travel 40 minutes to an event, and Xbox Live was an equivalent surrogate Move on campus in the middle of things and I’m out almost every day. Keep everything in walking distance and I’m very social in person. We’ll see if suburbs ever appeal to me, more likely would have to be a reimagined version of the concept.

oh_sigh 3y ago

Yes, just going on a walk can be boring for a child, but you don't need to just walk through the woods. You can go exploring, dig for treasure, climb trees, play hide and seek, build a fort, etc.

Kye 3y ago
What hiking trail allows this? Going off-trail, digging, climbing, and building will all get you booted. These are natural environments where the trail is already a significant compromise to justify the preservation.
- NegativeLatency 3y ago
  I had some experiences like this thanks to boy scouts, but it was on private land owned by another family for timber, or at a summer camp hardly an everyday thing though. Depending on what you're doing/season/location national forests allow gathering wood and stuff for building fires.
- ratmice 3y ago
  There is a park in my neighborhood, half of which is designated as a nature play space. Where all those things are allowed, lots of forts. It appears it was associated with the national wildlife federation natural learning initiative. https://www.nwf.org/Kids-and-Family/Connecting-Kids-and-Nature/Nature-Play-Spaces https://www.nwf.org/Kids-and-Family/Connecting-Kids-and-Natu... Not sure if there is a list of such places though
  - prawn 3y ago
    Nature play spaces are common in Australian schools now. Logs, rocks, dirt. Kids make forts and grind up rocks and so on. 40 years ago at the same school, we had old car tyres to roll around.
- defrost 3y ago
  I grew up in Northern Australia, later returned to raise my kids there, I'm back again with grand children. I literally cannot parse or make sense of your comment. Which is one indication of just how fundementally different various parts of the world are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmCX7R-W4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmCX7R-W4c
  - Symbiote 3y ago
    https://nt.gov.au/parks/safety-rules https://nt.gov.au/parks/safety-rules But I think there must be a misunderstanding, as it would be unusual for a place near suburbia to be a national park or similar area with restrictions like this.
    - defrost 3y ago
      There's nothing there I can see in the NT park rules that precludes digging or building a fort. Around the world some place back onto national parks, other places have large areas of undeveloped land that aren't national parks (cattle stations, community land, etc). The video I linked is representative of the kind of ocean land I grew up on and still live near part time - it's a good place to raise children, plenty to do.
  - oblio 3y ago
    Same, from Romania. If you hike you can more or less do anything you want along the way. The only thing "booting you" would probably be fatigue :-)))
- jdminhbg 3y ago
  There are lots of trails that are not on protected wilderness areas.
Broken_Hippo 3y ago
These aren't things that everyone gets. And for the record: I could only climb trees if I didn't get caught, really. If I climbed trees, I might fall and get injured. (I did get injured once: a twig got stuck in my wrist (was a fairly minor injury). Hide and seek only works if you have friends around to play with. I had that during some of elementary school, but we moved before my siblings were similar ages and there weren't other kids around the same age.